Magic, Magick, Ghosts & the Supernatural

Should it matter?

Diana_a7x:

Can you still be a catholic and be studying wicca?

Traditionallly, no. that's why i stepped away from the Church for a while. However, if you look carefully into the doctrine of Catholocism, it states that there are only two major beliefs that one must hold to and still be Catholic. And the only thing that studying wicca intereferes with is the first commandment, which isn't one of those beliefs.

The thing that keeps me believing that spirits and things of that nature are real, is that Catholocism never denied their existence. Sure, the church teaches that it's wrong to go out and actively seek interactions with them, but they never said that they weren't real.

oh, and if there are any other questions about catholocism, just pm me... i'll be happy to answer them.

I'm not a scholar by any means, but doesn't the Catholic church believe in the holy spirit (c'mon, that's a ghost). And what about in the bible, 1 Samuel 28:7-19, King Saul seeks a woman with a familiar spirit (demon) to inquire of Samuel about what to do. That she actually manages to communicate with the dead shocks her indicating to me that it did not previously happen. So, I would say that Christianity allows belief in ghosts, witches and demons, however they seem to discourage communication with them.

^that's exactly right. the Church never denied the existence of spirits. They just pointed out that participating in rituals and ceremonies in order to communicate with such spirits breaks the first commandment. that's why it's frowned upon for the most part.

then again, it depends on who you talk to in Christianity. Some Christians don't believe in spirits at all... besides the fact that they belive in the Holy Spirit. Others, like myself, are what one would refer to as radicals, and we believe that spirits are out there, and that sometimes they actively seek you instead of the other way around.

I think if you're instincts are pointing you towards believing in spirits but you're having conflicts with your religion, then maybe it's time to sit down and re evaluate your religion. Maybe the one you were raised up with isn't the one you agree with, and maybe by questioning a few things, like ghosts and etc. you can find a better sense of spirituality for yourself.

magic is a strange thing. yet awsome...... t makes people think. and believe.... not in magic.... in themselves... i know that sound odd but its true.... just think....

The Supernatural has always intruiged me more than anything.
Here's an extract I found in a book I read. See what you think of it.

"Every place and time has had vampires, going back to the earliest times:
all across Europe, Assyria, ancient Ireland, Russia, Hungary, Transylvania, Greece, India, China, Java etc."

I don't know about you, but I think that there might be something more than just us out there. If it's so easy to believe that seals and killer whales, or worms and birds, were created together... well, why shouldn't that apply to us as well?
I also would like to think that there was once a kind of magick that lived in the earth itself... the power of everything as one harmonised system. I don't think it was God. I think it was something far deeper and more earthly, but as time has sped on we have overcome ourselves with our modernity.
Anyone else think there might be some factual proof/truth behind the myths?

emotasticvampirekid:

The Supernatural has always intruiged me more than anything.
Here's an extract I found in a book I read. See what you think of it.

"Every place and time has had vampires, going back to the earliest times:
all across Europe, Assyria, ancient Ireland, Russia, Hungary, Transylvania, Greece, India, China, Java etc."

I don't know about you, but I think that there might be something more than just us out there. If it's so easy to believe that seals and killer whales, or worms and birds, were created together... well, why shouldn't that apply to us as well?
I also would like to think that there was once a kind of magick that lived in the earth itself... the power of everything as one harmonised system. I don't think it was God. I think it was something far deeper and more earthly, but as time has sped on we have overcome ourselves with our modernity.
Anyone else think there might be some factual proof/truth behind the myths?

I doubt any of the myths about vampires or the Loch Ness monster and other things like that are really true. It's more likely an old story that's gotten out of control.
Something like someone saw a giant eel in Loch Ness originally, which over time became a huge dinosaur-like Nessie monster. Y'know?
But it's got to be based on some sort of truth or story to begin with. Legends don't come from nowhere.

I dunno, I think of magick not as an actual thing, but more of a power of the human mind.
It's not something that you can control, but you can influence it, if you know what I mean.

Diana_a7x:

And you're saying I should get more into my religion?

No, I'm suggesting that if you have interests outside your religion (like ghosts or wicca), that maybe you should re-examine what you really believe and see if that matches with what you think your religion is. If it doesn't match, then maybe consider doing a little soul searching. You might find your life heading in a new direction, somewhere outside that religion.

The human mind is something that's always confused me so much. This is related to magick, so don't rip it out of me for asking on this thread, but:

Do you ever feel as though there is something lodged into your mind that is completely barred from the concious part of your brain? We only use a small percentage of our brains most of the time...
What if there's some deeper, implanted magick, or force, or even intelligence/ability that none of us knew we had? How could minds as seemingly simple as ours invent things like magick in the first place?
Do you ever feel lost inside the expanse of your own mind, lost inside yourself? Because even though I inhabit my own skin, my own thoughts, I still feel a stranger to them because there is part of me that I know I can never comprehend. It's far too complex. It's also the reason for most of my teenage angst, or whatever our parents call it these days.

I think far too much...

emotasticvampirekid:

The human mind is something that's always confused me so much. This is related to magick, so don't rip it out of me for asking on this thread, but:

Do you ever feel as though there is something lodged into your mind that is completely barred from the concious part of your brain? We only use a small percentage of our brains most of the time...
What if there's some deeper, implanted magick, or force, or even intelligence/ability that none of us knew we had? How could minds as seemingly simple as ours invent things like magick in the first place?
Do you ever feel lost inside the expanse of your own mind, lost inside yourself? Because even though I inhabit my own skin, my own thoughts, I still feel a stranger to them because there is part of me that I know I can never comprehend. It's far too complex. It's also the reason for most of my teenage angst, or whatever our parents call it these days.

I think far too much...

Wow. I like that theory. lol. *aggrees with it*

Diana_a7x:

So you're typing that humans can control magick?
I thought it was all about nature...which no one can control..

You can't control nature at all.
However you can bend it to your will hence Magic(K)!
You don't GET nature to do something for you, you ASK and the God (If your a bloke) or the Godess (if your a lass) will grant you your wish if he or she deems fit.
However if you Hex someone thats working against Nature and you'll be punished 3x as bead hence you threefold.
For worse crimes againt nature you could even be punished via your tenfold.
Be warned you will be punished, there is no escaping nature and its will.