Pledge of Allegiance
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| druscilla. Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 1671 | Fer Suuure Jenni: I completely agree. I just don't think the practice ought to be stopped. If you don't want to say it don't, but you shouldn't force other people to stop. |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | We don't have to learn them, we just have to stand up for 20 seconds to listen to them. (I don't think anyone should be forced to say the pledge) |
| Ceiling Gerard Awake and Unafraid  Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 14232 | druscilla_way: I think immigrants need to adapt to American culture and Language. It doesn't hurt anyone to learn the de facto language of this country. |
| druscilla. Bleeding on the Floor Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 1671 | Fer Suuure Jenni: And I'm sure they know it if they're in public school. But there's nothing wrong with bilingual people speaking in both languages. |
| Ceiling Gerard Awake and Unafraid Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 14232 | Actually no: everything in public school is adapted for Spanish speaking students. Special tests are made for them. They have Special classes that really don't do much. Infact, not to brag, if it wasn't for my mother five Spanish speaking students wouldn't have passed the English rejents ( a test taken in junoir year od highschool). When she first started turtoring them, they didn't know an inch of English. There's something wrong with that. But that's another argument all together. I said my main issue was with English speaking students being forced to say it in another language. |
| electric love; Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 1557 | Resurgam: and i know this goes back to respect, but why should we even be forced to stand for however many seconds long to listen to it in other languages...i think it is unpatriotic to have to listen to it in another language...i mean i understand not standing could be unpatriotic too, but should we have to if we don't think it is right to have the pledge being said in another language in the first place? |
| Ceiling Gerard Awake and Unafraid Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 14232 | XxTWiSTEDxDiSASTERxX: You're right. And we also have the Freedom of Protest. Meaning they can sit down during the pledge being said in another language as a mock form or protest. |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | How can it possibly be unpatriotic if we don't have an official language? And if you really want to protest it, you could...I don't know, start a petition or something. There are other ways than not standing. Is there anyone here who thinks people should be forced to say the Pledge? |
| Ceiling Gerard Awake and Unafraid Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 14232 | No. People shouldn't be forced to say the Pledge period. It's you're right as an American. Some people are digusted with this country- my boyfriend being one of them- so why force them to Pledge for a country they have no respect for? |
| Ceiling Gerard Awake and Unafraid Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 14232 | "The United States does not have an official language; nevertheless, English (specifically, American English) is the language used for legislation, regulations, executive orders, treaties, federal court rulings, and all other official pronouncements. Additionally, one must demonstrate an ability to read, write, and speak English to become a naturalized citizen. Many individual states and territories have also adopted English as their official language: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Illinois,[1] Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Utah, Virginia, and Wyoming " ~ Source, Wikipedia. |
| Fezzik Salute You in Your Grave Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 2748 | ^Exactly. No one should have to Pledge Allegiance to the country. We're a democracy (durr). I do think people should stand during the Pledge though. |
| druscilla. Bleeding on the Floor Age: 37 Gender: Female Posts: 1671 | XxTWiSTEDxDiSASTERxX: I think the Pledge is the Pledge whether in English or not. It means the same thing. |
| electric love; Bleeding on the Floor Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 1557 | well...that's what you think, im not going to argue it anymore, seeing how we have two total different views on the matter, and thats not going to change, not saying that i was trying to change your view, because i wasn't, i was just simply stating my opinion on the matter, and i really don't have any other statements on the subject, since anything else i would say i would be repeating myself... |
| Thursday's Child Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 34 Gender: Female Posts: 1324 | Well, to start off, I don't think anyone should be forced to say the pledge, despite of the language it's being recited in. But anyways, to everyone who's saying "but english is known as America's language," or "it's what a majority of the people speak,", take this info consideration: - In 2003, Census Bureau reported that nearly one American in five speaks a language other than English at home.with Spanish leading, and Chinese right behind it. - On many fact sheets about the U.S., under language, they state "english and spanish" - By 2050, Spanish and Mandarin are expected to surpass english, with only 5% of the population of the world stil speaking it. currently, it's at about 9%. Seeing as we're a county with no official language they can be saying it in pig latin for all I care. These languages are not only making up the culture of our country but a large majority at that. We can't live in a bubble and pretend like english is the only language we need to know or that it's the only one that should be used. besides, no matter what language it's in the message is still the same in the pledge: "with librerty and justice to all" you know, regardless of race, religion, ethnicity or language |
| assiralc talc Really Not Okay  Age: - Gender: - Posts: 684 | I thought I'd better do some research before attempting to engage in discussion on this topic, and good old Wiki told me that the Pledge was written in 1892 to commemorate the 400th birthday of the arrival of Columbus to the Americas. So it was written about one of the most important dates in recent American history- the arrival of the first immigrants. Doesn't that say something about the nature of the Pledge? A lot has happened in those hundred years and maybe the Pledge should change to reflect that. I don't think saying it in other languages is a bad idea. It was designed as a way of remembering the foundation of America (as it is after Columbus, seeing as pre-Columbus days don't seem to ever be counted as American History, but that's another topic), its birth being due to immigration. America as it today is full of diverse cultures, and everyday life needs to be able to accomodate that diversity. The Pledge is recited at public events- the public is multiculural. To respect that diversity, it makes sense to recite the Pledge in the dominant languages, those being Spanish, English, etc. |
| xXDr. KrazyXx Fabulous Killjoy Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 120 | It's stupid to force people to say the pledge. If it's against their religion, if the just don't want to, they shouldn't have to. And making them say it in a different language is kind of stupid and pointless, but no more wrong than forcing them to say it in their native language. |
| Silent_Whispers Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2119 | I don't see what the big deal is, let the people sing in any language they want, I mean, America let the people from different countries move here, why not let them sing it in there own language...It like saying, you can't speak the language you grew up knowing in our country...in my opinion its stupid, and I think they should let them sing it any language they want. |
| Ceiling Gerard Awake and Unafraid Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 14232 | Excentrique: ^ That's the issue- students being forced recite it in a language that is NOT english. So for example: you are English speaking, and they suddenly forced you to say it in Spanish because their are more Spanish children in your class. Would you agree with that? |
| cLuB K!D Really Not Okay  Age: 85 Gender: Female Posts: 648 | Hmmmmm........... I am very split with this topic only because, although I am very shamed to say it, I am racist. At least I am truthful enough to say it. The racist side of me says that we should recite it in english because even though there is no "national" language, everyone speaks english or needs to speak english. I don't care about accents, or anything like that. The pledge was written in english and it needs to stay in english. But the politically correct side of me says that they should be aloud to recite it in their native tongue because that is what America is about. I mean they are still being truthful to America by reciting it. So I say hell, let em' do it. So my final answer is let em' speak it in their own way. Just don't make the people that speak english or their own native tongue have to speak it in other languages. |
| cLuB K!D Really Not Okay Age: 85 Gender: Female Posts: 648 | But I agree with whom ever said it that it is a right as an american citizen that you do NOT have to say the pledge of alegance |
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