Creation

the thing is even with the bible and scientific views the whole thing is still impossible ..if god created the world where did god come from..........and how can somthing just happen somone must have done somthing for a world to start .......iv confused myself

[quote="King Of The Jews JR"]Its simple, my god is a flying spaghetti monster.
In the beginning he created the mountains, some trees and a midget.
Our heaven has a stripper factory and a beer volcano.
Join Us for we are the right path.

Ok seriously, Earth was created when large amounts of space dust started collecting together. Well thats what i believe
but where did the space dust come from then lol ?

King Of The Jews JR:

Its simple, my god is a flying spaghetti monster.
In the beginning he created the mountains, some trees and a midget.
Our heaven has a stripper factory and a beer volcano.
Join Us for we are the right path.

Ok seriously, Earth was created when large amounts of space dust started collecting together. Well thats what i believe anyway

Flying Spaghetti Monsterism is the illuminated way. Capt. Jack Sparrow said so. He's our highest priest.



I'm Buddhist, so it's evolution and big bang or whatever science proof there is. I've yet to read that much on the big bang, but evolution and the scientific explaination of the origin of life is the way I see it.

I am not really sure.
I think that the environment was right. I think that we evolved from itty bitty microscopic organisms.
But how did the organisms get there in the first place?
I think THAT is where God came in.
After that God had no control over what happened. Survival of the fittest, so to speak.

The argument for "who created God" is a tough one, but the answer is this: Those that believe in God, understand God to be an infinite, eternal essence that has always existed—no one created God. God exists not as much as a physical being, taking up space and having a brain and hands, etc., but more of as an essence that was everything and existed before there was a universe, before there were planets, matter, cells etc. God exists outside of time, outside of history, outside of physical things.

I believe neither until i see proof!
Science is just taking really good guesses at the moment it isn't 10000000% certain.
Religion can never be proven as a God can never be proven to exist but you've got to have faith in christianity to believe it, I'm open minded I neither believe but i don't think its a pile of rubbish either.
The world could have been created from another form from the big bang or God which we just don't know as it happened so long ago.

I believe in scientific creation, the big band then evolution from single cells to fish then fish evolutionized to be out of water (reptiles) and i don't know how but i know that mammals came somehow and made humans. What i don't get is how somebody could believe that some faceless guy made earth in 7 days? then made 2 humans to populate the earth? he made the humans as highly advanced (physically) as us today, but there are thousands of pieces of actual PROOF that say people evolutionalized from Neanderthals and cromagnon. The whole "god" thing makes absolutely no sense

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What i don't get is how somebody could believe that some faceless guy made earth in 7 days? then made 2 humans to populate the earth? he made the humans as highly advanced (physically) as us today, but there are thousands of pieces of actual PROOF that say people evolutionalized from Neanderthals and cromagnon. The whole "god" thing makes absolutely no sense

I think people always take that story to seriously. First of all who says God measures one day the same way we do? One day for him would be like a thousand years for us. Perhaps Adam and Eve where the first to monkeys to walk upright, or the first two cavemen. I don't think it says anywhere that the humans he made where as 'highly advanced' as we are today. Sure people often pain religious pictures of Adam and Eve that look like a fully evolved human, but who wants to paint a picture of two cavemen?
I believe in evolution and the big bang, but whose to say that God wasn't the driving force behind those things. I mean there has to be a need to evolve, you don't just change one day, there has to be some factor that forces you to evolve, maybe God created that factor. I think that God thing makes perfect sense if you don't take the creation story literally word for word.
Also for the 'faceless guy' thing, read Beeblebrox's post a little farther up, it kind of explains that.

Beeblebrox:

The argument for "who created God" is a tough one, but the answer is this: Those that believe in God, understand God to be an infinite, eternal essence that has always existed—no one created God. God exists not as much as a physical being, taking up space and having a brain and hands, etc., but more of as an essence that was everything and existed before there was a universe, before there were planets, matter, cells etc. God exists outside of time, outside of history, outside of physical things.

That's what I believe, only, instead of God, or a god, that /something/ was always there-that something being matter, and that it's existed from the beginning, and always will continue to exist

Personally, I don't believe in God, so I would have to say the theory of evolution does it for me.

Personally, I think the world is too complex to have been created by God. In my opinion, God is a name given by people long ago in order to explain things that they couldn't understand. I think the universe was created by a large explosion, which in my opinion is proved by red shift, which proves that the universe is expanding, as it would in the aftermath of a cataclismic explosion. I don't know what caused the explosion, and I refuse to believe that it all came from nothing, as it is impossible to have nothing (opposite of something is nothing, opposite of dark is light etc etc). I don't believe in God, but I am sort of comforted by the fact that there might be someone looking out for you, and things are supposed to happen for a reason. People imagine God as themselves (the Christian one is a white man), therefore making themselves the almighty, which is why I don't feel that the Universe could've been created by him, as there are so many versions of Him. Some people argue that there must be the First Cause, and that is God, but what created God?

sorry it's so long...

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but what created God?

Beeblebrox:

The argument for "who created God" is a tough one, but the answer is this: Those that believe in God, understand God to be an infinite, eternal essence that has always existed—no one created God. God exists not as much as a physical being, taking up space and having a brain and hands, etc., but more of as an essence that was everything and existed before there was a universe, before there were planets, matter, cells etc. God exists outside of time, outside of history, outside of physical things.

That's what I believe.

i think it was the big bang

I am a scientist, and therefore believe in the Big Bang/ Big Crunch. I am an atheist so don't believe in God(s). I mean, where does God come from in the first place? Surely there's a beginning to everything, so there MUST have been something before God.
I believe the idea of a whole load of rocks crashing together is more plausible than that.
What I'm curious about though, is where matter that supplied creation came from.

Vanya Hargreeves:

What I'm curious about though, is where matter that supplied creation came from.

at first I thought your post said "I'm a scientologist"
That's a really good question, can you create matter?

Eponine:

at first I thought your post said "I'm a scientologist"
That's a really good question, can you create matter?

Matter cannot be destroyed nor created. It simply is. So says Einstein.

Faye Merci:

Matter cannot be destroyed nor created. It simply is. So says Einstein.

Okay, I thought it was something like that. So if it can't be destroyed or created where did it all come from, or maybe it was always there.