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July 3rd, 2007 at 11:12pm
^Allow me to put it this way: say, for example, you're a 23-year-old African-American. A 23-year-old, to be blunt, hasn't gone through s*** to gain freedom. Slavery was abolished in something like the 1830's (as far as I could tell from the scant research I did on the subject).
Which would mean that there is nobody alive today who can say that they actually experienced slavery or went through things that would warrant them being able to use a word that we can't.
Yes, the word originated as a derogatory term, but I don't see women turning words like 'slut' around and using them in a positive light towards each other at all - if women refer to one another as 'slut' or something like that, they're being offensive. So I fail to see how black people can 'turn the word into something positive' and get offended when white people use it - if it's been turned around into something friendly, then surely it's racist of them to be able to use it freely, while denying white people the dubious privilege of also doing so?

I just think this whole 'you don't know what we went through' crap is a complete cop-out for everything, from being able to use the n-word, to complaining about not having the motivation to get a job and move out of the projects. Fact is, there are still people around who experienced segregation and such up until the 50's or 60's, but those people are the ones who have used the anti-degregation laws to better themselves and make decent lives for themselves and their families - and now it's their grandchildren, who haven't experienced s***, who want to sit around and bitch and moan about 'what we've gone through'. It's a load of bull - you weren't working on a sugar plantation, being flogged by Great White Master. You weren't refused entry to college because of your race. You weren't the loser in this round of job interviews because of your skin colour.
If anything, you were refused this or that because you didn't have the qualifications, didn't deserve it over someone more needy, or whatever. Nobody in today's society can fall back on the slavery excuse anymore, and I for one am sick to death of hearing it.
It's common knowledge that a lot of white Australians are the descendants of convicts brought here in chains in the late 1700's to mid 1800's from Britain. But I have never once heard of anybody saying, 'Oh, you don't know what it's like for me, blah blah blah dragged here in chains against my will,' etc, which is essentially what black Americans do. And why do white Aussies not do the same? It's because they know full well that it wasn't THEM being brought here for something as simple as stealing a loaf of bread to feed a starving family, or prostituting themselves to get enough money for a bed to sleep in that night - it was someone they've never even met, years and years and years before they were even born. Therefore, it doesn't affect them.

So I don't see why Afro-Americans feel they have the right to keep bringing up this freaking slavery bull as an excuse for everything wrong with their lives. We live in the here, the now, and blacks have just as many, if not more, privileges than white people do - it's up to the individual themself to take advantage of these opportunities, but few seem to - they're content to let great opportunities pass them by and then blame white society for it.
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July 4th, 2007 at 06:30pm
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^Allow me to put it this way: say, for example, you're a 23-year-old African-American. A 23-year-old, to be blunt, hasn't gone through s*** to gain freedom. Slavery was abolished in something like the 1830's (as far as I could tell from the scant research I did on the subject).
Which would mean that there is nobody alive today who can say that they actually experienced slavery or went through things that would warrant them being able to use a word that we can't.
Yes, the word originated as a derogatory term, but I don't see women turning words like 'slut' around and using them in a positive light towards each other at all - if women refer to one another as 'slut' or something like that, they're being offensive. So I fail to see how black people can 'turn the word into something positive' and get offended when white people use it - if it's been turned around into something friendly, then surely it's racist of them to be able to use it freely, while denying white people the dubious privilege of also doing so?

I just think this whole 'you don't know what we went through' crap is a complete cop-out for everything, from being able to use the n-word, to complaining about not having the motivation to get a job and move out of the projects. Fact is, there are still people around who experienced segregation and such up until the 50's or 60's, but those people are the ones who have used the anti-degregation laws to better themselves and make decent lives for themselves and their families - and now it's their grandchildren, who haven't experienced s***, who want to sit around and bitch and moan about 'what we've gone through'. It's a load of bull - you weren't working on a sugar plantation, being flogged by Great White Master. You weren't refused entry to college because of your race. You weren't the loser in this round of job interviews because of your skin colour.
If anything, you were refused this or that because you didn't have the qualifications, didn't deserve it over someone more needy, or whatever. Nobody in today's society can fall back on the slavery excuse anymore, and I for one am sick to death of hearing it.
It's common knowledge that a lot of white Australians are the descendants of convicts brought here in chains in the late 1700's to mid 1800's from Britain. But I have never once heard of anybody saying, 'Oh, you don't know what it's like for me, blah blah blah dragged here in chains against my will,' etc, which is essentially what black Americans do. And why do white Aussies not do the same? It's because they know full well that it wasn't THEM being brought here for something as simple as stealing a loaf of bread to feed a starving family, or prostituting themselves to get enough money for a bed to sleep in that night - it was someone they've never even met, years and years and years before they were even born. Therefore, it doesn't affect them.

So I don't see why Afro-Americans feel they have the right to keep bringing up this freaking slavery bull as an excuse for everything wrong with their lives. We live in the here, the now, and blacks have just as many, if not more, privileges than white people do - it's up to the individual themself to take advantage of these opportunities, but few seem to - they're content to let great opportunities pass them by and then blame white society for it.




I can understan why you are angry, and its because you dont understand the impact of "this freaking slavery bull" which i think is disrespectful to all those who suffered in slavery, but anyway you dont understand that slavery still exists, because your not the one being faced with it.


Oh and its not an excuse its the only history we know of and have in america, thats our "taxation without representation" or our fouth of july. Its a shame that can't see that our history here in america is such a sad and meager one. And my teacher told me once, that if you do not learn your history its found to be reapeated. Without a past there is no future, so you want us to forget our past, what future will we have, what changes and improvements will me learn to make. Its truly people like you that keep us enslaved, and its a shame that you dont even know it.
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July 4th, 2007 at 06:57pm
Racism is wrong, can I just say this cause it does kinda get old about the slavery thing most people think that the civil war was because of slavery it wasnt, it was about economics. I have friends that are different race
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July 4th, 2007 at 07:41pm
Elle_Vie:
I can understan why you are angry, and its because you dont understand the impact of "this freaking slavery bull" which i think is disrespectful to all those who suffered in slavery, but anyway you dont understand that slavery still exists, because your not the one being faced with it.
I see it this way - you're 13 years old, you've never been 'faced with it' so I fail to see how you can use it as a crutch for everything. You haven't been released from slavery because you were never enslaved, nor were your parents or grandparents or great-grandparents.
I'm not saying the past has to be forgotten, I'm just saying people have to quit dwelling on it and using it as an excuse for their own shortcomings, and make a future for themselves based on what's in the here and now. I mean, if I was the descendant of an English convict, I could do what African-Americans do and sit here bitching about how it wasn't my choice to be brougth here in chains against my will, and blame the English government for my family having to live here with no privileges etc etc etc - but it's ridiculous because I wasn't brought here, it would have been my great-great-great-grandparents, and since then a lot of things have changed, granting me the freedom to do what I want, when I want, and make something of myself if I choose to get off my ass and go after it - education opportunities, employment, etc. It's all out there for anyone who ants it, but I see far too many people NOT reaching for it, and then sitting around blaming whites for their misfortune.

Like I said, I'm not saying forget about your ancestor's history and the tragedies they experienced - just don't use slavery as an excuse for YOU not getting what you feel you're entitled to.
Australian Aborigines don't sit around complaining about our Australia Day (the equivalent of July 4 over there) - and Australia Day is symbolic of white people invading the black people's land and taking over it, not Americans winning their independence from Britain, so in my opinion Aborigines would have a lot more right to bitch about our national holiday than you do about yours. Independence Day has nothing to do with blacks.

I think your argument about 'history repeating itself' isn't valid at all. Yes, sometimes history does repeat itself, but in today's society we have the knowledge and the foresight to predict the consequences of our actions, and I really, really doubt that humans will ever revert to something as primitive as enslaving people of other races - think about it for a second. We're smarter than that, and teaching kids in schools about it isn't the catalyst for change. That part of history will never repeat itself because we know the value of human rights these days, and we now understand that one race is not superior to another.

I don't believe that without knowing your ancestors' history, you can't make a future for yourself. The idea behind that philosophy is that you have to know where YOU YOURSELF came from in order to know where you're going - not some long-dead person who, when it comes down to it, is so distantly related to you that they may as well be a complete stranger.

...And 'people like me'? Ooh, correct me if I'm wrong, but I detect a note of - what's that? - OMG, RACISM, in your tone. You're straight-up against me just because I'm white and have an opinion that isn't all 'Poor black people'.
'People like me' do not in any way 'keep you enslaved' because, as far as I can tell, you're allowed to attend school, gain entry to an Ivy-League college (provided, of course, that you have the grades - or are you going to blame your low GPA on white people's prejudice agianst you instead of your laziness or lack of brain-power?), get a job in any field you desire, vote to choose who runs your country, get access to doctors and medical help whenever you need it, buy a house, get a loan, etc etc etc. If you don't do or can't do any of thsoe things, it's got nothing to do with your race or 'white people holding you back' - it's because you failed somewhere within yourself and messed things up.
For instance, my husband is white and he can't get a loan for a house, because he got himself into some debt when he was younger. Does he sit arond blaming anybody for the fact that he's stuck with a bad credit rating? No, he accepts that it's his own damn fault and he just has to live with it. And he's learned from that mistake and is using the lesson to better himself.
Which is something I think a lot of black people need to take a look at and think about doing in future.
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July 4th, 2007 at 07:49pm
wow.
you and i are one in the same in terms of opinions.

i...think i love you. lol
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July 4th, 2007 at 08:03pm
^ Hey, I've said it before and I'll say it again - I only say what the rest of the politcally-correct world is thinking, they're just too scared to pipe up and say it themselves.
Bring the hatred as far as I'm concerned, I'm as entitled to an opinion as the next person, but because my opinion isn't all sympathetic towards people don't really deserve sympathy, I'm a horrible racist monster.
I beg to differ, seeing as pretty much everyone I've spoken to about the subject whole-heartedly agrees with me - they just didn't want to get harrassed for their opinions.
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July 4th, 2007 at 09:47pm
I am an african-american, and I dont crutch on stuff like You dont know what I went through, I think its stupid and I say it, I was never on a plantation I have a fresh start, everything I get is because I am smart enough to get it, but the place I live is rather small minded and I do see lots of people who do still make racist statements, and its all over the media, but I just laugh it off, its all I can do. *shrugs* But I do not under any circumstance use that to get what I want or as an excuse not to work as hard as my fellow classmates. So dont go writing off every African-American, not saying that your are but it seems that way. Very Happy
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July 4th, 2007 at 10:30pm
I admit it.
Im rasict.
But in New Zealand; That's kinda first nature.
We have alot of different cultures here.

The reason im rasict is because the native people of this land [maoris] or brown.
And when the white people first came to NZ, They basically taunted them for being a different colour, And that still happens, Even today.

I go to a VERY rasicm oreintated school.

We get labels and racism flying around all the time.
Personally: I only get racist if someone says something to me first.

Im VERY touchy about it, Im never racist to someone who doesnt deserve it.
But if they try to start something, I have no hesitation in saying something back.

Just because white people get in trouble for calling a black person "nigger"
Doesnt mean that the black person should get off calling a white person "Whitey"

It's all offencive.
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July 4th, 2007 at 11:22pm
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ISo dont go writing off every African-American, not saying that your are but it seems that way. Very Happy
Oh, by no means have I lumped every single person of African heritage into the same category, don't worry - I have far more brains than to assume that every single one of them acts the same way. Everybody's an individual, and I accept and respect that everyone says and does their own thing - I just see a LOT of African-Americans bitching and moaning when I see no reason they should be able to.
I mean, I've had people call me racist before, but what they don't stop to think about is that I hate useless white scum just as much as I hate useless black scum - I'm not prejudiced against anybody because of their ancestry, I'm prejudiced against people who, in my eyes, do the wrong thing or expect something for nothing - and I accept that white people do it too, and I hate them for it as well. To me, that's not racist, as it has nothing to do with a person's ancestry, it has more to do with their attitude towards life and other people, and if you've got a crappy attitude (ie using your ancestor's slavery as an excuse for your own shortcomings), then I don't like it - it's got nothing to do with the fact that your ancestors were slaves or that you've got dark skin or that I think I'm superior to you, it's to do with the fact that hey - you have the same opportunities as I do, and if I'm too lazy or stupid to take advantage of them, I don't go around pointing the finger at people of other races and claim they're oppressing me.

But yeah, like I said, I definitely agree that not everyone of African heritage is like that, and I feel that as years pass, we will see more people accepting history as history, and moving on to become people who are independent of the slavery excuse. It's like Aborigines complaining about white settlers in the 1700's - well, it wasn't me that came here, I was born and raised here just like you were, and even so, when is the bitching going to stop? What's done is done, surely it's better for everyone to learn from past mistakes (ie not go invading other countries in future) and learn to get along with each other, rather than continuing to complain about something that can't and won't ever be changed? I mean, there are millions of white Australians living here - what are we going to do, satisfy the Aborigines by leaving? Where are we going to go, and more than that, why should we have to, seeing as it wasn't me or my ancestors who took over way back when? My great-great-whatevers migrated here of their own free will in the late 1800's, well after convicts stopped being shipped here from Britain, and I myself had no control over what they did or where they moved to. I'm an Australian born and bred, and there's no way you can tell me to 'go back to Denmark' or whatever.
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July 5th, 2007 at 01:49am
The way I see it is, I cant complain I wasnt there. Its the way I think, it is the way I will always think. And I know I came off as weird earlier but thats cause I didnt have time to read through everyword but the important parts, and you make a valid point and I dont think of you as racist. There is not a lot of racism going on, but the fact that people dont want to break from it, if its still going on where they live is sickening to me. But of course that is just how I feel.
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July 6th, 2007 at 12:48am
I understand that some african americans do limit themselves and blame whites, but some people still don't understand that black are under mental slavery. And also alot of african americans do try and better themselves but they are still limited because of the stereotypes that people have of blacks.


but its sad because blacks have no history, and the little we have, we don't take enough time to actual learn the truth, or learn about it from our own people's perceptive, but from the perceptive of the people who captured us. We dont know who we are, all we know is that we are slaves, how messed up is that?


No offense but I dont think that you understand the feelings that blacks have, even though white people aren't truly americans they've claimed it as their own, and there is sooo much history here for you and about you. you have a feeling of contentment.. And yah I do understand what is would feel like to live in a place were you don't belong, and to not truly understand who you are, because I feel it all the time.



oh and no we do not have the same opportunities as whites do. Not to be rude but your trying to make it seem as though everybody equal and people have no shortcomings because of their past, everything is based on the past, and as good as it would be for us all to be equal, its just not the truth. The majority of the people who run the america are whites, and some of them like to stick to the past and old fashion way of doing things, and how the fore-fathers thjought and all that bullcrap, and blacks/minorities weren't favorited in there eyes. it could be true that in basic living that minorites could come up with the same opportunities as whites, but in the real world I really don't believe it works that way, and I've had people, honest people I admire tell me so.




But once again I do agree with you that there are blacks who need to start making making it better for themselves. I when I was in school, I got straight 4.0s and I'd have people telling me that oh I was acting white or I thing im white, and I still do have people saying that. Even my closet friends thing that I favor whites over blacks, so I'm really confused when you say that I'm a racists, but I guess thats how its comes out when you are not into the whole political correctness crap. Its kinda wierd for us to be having this debate when I have the same mindset as you when it comes to this kinda thing, but at the same time, its like im trying to tell you the other side of the story, cuz there's two sides to every story. Oh and when I said people like you I mean people with your type of mindset, and not just white epole have it blacks, japanese, whatever, its a mindset.



though it does make me mad/frustrated that the black community is in crumples, and most of the youth don't seem to care. They dont even appear to want to fix amd improve they just want to move on, how can you move on if you don't even know where the hell you where?
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July 6th, 2007 at 02:12am
wow. there is a ton i am dying to say and it looks like this messageboard is the perfect place to say it. so here goes.

1) someone on here said racism is unavoidable. that's bullshit. i'm not going to not try to not be racist because it's "unavoidable" and "part of human nature". sure it is. someone else said that everyone had probably said or done something racist at least once in their life, and that's probably true. i know i have. but i'm not going to not try to stop just because i'm human and it's my nature to feel superior. racism is completely wrong. how would you feel if you were the one being stereotyped? if you were the one to whom jobs were being refused because of the color of your skin? if you were the victim, would you still be excusing the bastard stereotyping you because it was "just part of his nature"?

2) read the post someone made about celebrating black canidates running for president and how it's bullshit because they're no different from white candidates yet we still celebrate them just because they happen to have a different skin color.

3) someone was bitching about some comedian who made racist jokes. personally, [and, yes, i am entitled to my opinion] i believe bitching on someone for making a racist JOKE is wrong. i have blonde friends, but when i make blonde jokes they just laugh it off. it's not wrong. racist jokes make our society more accepting of other races. if there were no racist jokes, when people made a racist comment, their victim would have to take it incredibly seriously, because our society would not embrace maybe playing on the stereotype. wow, that sounds really confusing. but take blacks and their "gangsta-ness" for an example. if you see a black kid walking down the hallway and you're like "what up, ma gangsta?" he's probably gonna laugh it off. but if nobody had ever taught him to sometimes take the sterotype as a joke, he would have probably beat you up. as long as you're kidding, i think a certain about of racism in jokes is ok. i'm reverting back to the blonde jokes. my friends know i don't actually think they're stupid; they know it's just part of the humor. there's a huge difference between telling a joke where an asian kid is top of his class and bitching on an asian kid because you actually do expect him to be top of his class. wow, this is really, really confusing.

3) ok, about the "nigga" thing? i do think that is kind of racist of blacks. like, apparently "all men are created equal." we should ignore differences in our skin color. so why is there a difference when a black person says "nigga" as when a white person says it? if the white person isn't a racist, they don't mean it in a derogatory way. no more derogatory than a black person would.

4) the person who posted before me was talking about how blacks really do have to suffer a lot of racism now and it is harder for them than for whites. i know that's true. first of all, they have to deal with stereotypes. me? i'm glad i'm white, because i feel like i can be whatever i want. blacks seem to limited to being "ghetto" or being beat up. also, i know a lot of instances where people judge blacks before they know them and lean towards giving the "nerdy white kid" the good job versus the "ghetto, bad boy nigger." also, my history teacher told me about an incident where one of his black friends wasn't allowed to deliver goods to a house because the man didn't want a black person setting foot on his property.

my last word: racism still exists. there are racists who truly believe they are superior to others. STOP IT.<img src=http://www.iamfan.com/~my_chemical_romance/images/pictures/my-chemical-romance-1.jpg></a>
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someone on here said racism is unavoidable. that's bullshit. i'm not going to not try to not be racist because it's "unavoidable" and "part of human nature". sure it is. someone else said that everyone had probably said or done something racist at least once in their life, and that's probably true. i know i have. but i'm not going to not try to stop just because i'm human and it's my nature to feel superior. racism is completely wrong. how would you feel if you were the one being stereotyped? if you were the one to whom jobs were being refused because of the color of your skin? if you were the victim, would you still be excusing the bastard stereotyping you because it was "just part of his nature"?

I'm kind of 50/50 on the idea of racism being 'part of human nature'. I mean (and this is probably going to sound really complicated and make no sense), on one hand, I feel that judging other people is unavoidable because it IS human nature to look for ways to feel superior to those around you. I don't necessarily agree with basing your judgment solely on a person's ancestry, but I think it is just one of those ingrained things that has existed for so long that we aren't going to see it eradicated in our lifetimes. Maybe in our grandkid's lifetimes, but not while we're around. The idea of freedom and equality for all is still too new to us to truly accept it deep down - hopefully as society progresses, our (or rather, our children's, and grandchildren's, etc) attitudes will change and we will find other ways to judge people, rather than on race.
I think that's probably what that person meant when they said racism was 'unavoidable' or 'part of human nature' - because nobody can argue that we don't automatically judge others and try to feel like we're better - there's just got to be other ways to boost our own egos than 'Omg I'm so much better than you because I'm white'. I mean, I'm proud to be white, don't get me wrong - I just judge people on their own individual actions rather than writing them off at a glance. People call me racist, but what they don't realise is that I hate white people who do the wrong thing just as much as I hate black people who do the wrong thing - therefore, I'm not judging a person on their ancestry, just their own actions.

As far as stereotyping goes, well, it exists in all cultures and colours, not just blacks. So I can confidently say that I, being 100% white trash, have been stereotyped at some point, and to this day still deal with stereotypes that people base off first impressions.
For instance, right now I'm stereotyped as, well, whatever people believe a person with piercings and tattoos is. Don't ask me what that is, I just know it's bad because of the reactions I get from strangers. And I'm stereotyped as a bit of a slut because I'm pregnant and not yet 30. Apparently if you're a young mum, you're supposed to be single, living off welfare, and sleeping around (which is what got you in that situation to start with). What strangers don't know by just looking at me is that not only am I not receiving welfare or living in public housing, but I'm married - yup, not single, and not even in a defacto relationship - officially, legally married.

So yeah, I know what it feels like to be stereotyped, and you know what? I understand why I get stereotyped, and I forgive those shallow people for making stupid assumptions based on my appearance or their misguided opinions. They don't know any better, so I take it upon myself to get out there and prove that just because I have three lip rings doesn't make me rude, or uneducated, or whatever people think I am. I don't sit on my ass and cry about how people treat me badly - I live my life, I get refused employment for someone more clean-cut, and I move on. Hey, their loss, right?

In addition to that, well, to be honest, a stereotype would not exist unless there were several incidences of it being true, you know? I mean, if there weren't lot of black guys running around in gangs, dealing drugs, cheating on their women and living off welfare, nobody would just assume that the black guy walking past them on the street has a pistol in his waistband, a baggie in his back pocket and six baby mommas on his block.
It's up to everyone to prove thsoe stereotypes wrong, but while there are still people perpetuating those stereotypes and then crying about how people make assumptions about them, it's never going to work. They need to realise that instead of just bitching about stuff, they need to get out there and prove everyone wrong.
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July 6th, 2007 at 06:21am
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One thing that pisses me off is it's always the whites who are disrespectful
to the african americans.
African Ameircans can rip around being as rude and condisending and excluding to the whites all they want.
As soon as a white does that they're immediatly racist.
African Americans/Blacks can have such a moody, hateful additude
towards whites. If they were to let down there guard just a little bit it might help the situation out.....
I'm not trying to be racist. Anything but that.
Just pointing out something I've noticed. =/


I truly hope you do not feel that all Black people are and feel this way; because if you do, as a Black person, I truly take offense. Our walks of life are probably completely different, but from my eyes, I have seen the same description you gave in every race Ive met at one point or another. Sad Try opening your horizons some and realize that no one is perfect, so there's no point in pointing out the particular flaws of a single group when everyone has been there and done the same things at one point in their life. Im sure that you have been moody or hateful yourself at one time or another Wink
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July 7th, 2007 at 01:39am
angelmarie:
Try opening your horizons some and realize that no one is perfect, so there's no point in pointing out the particular flaws of a single group when everyone has been there and done the same things at one point in their life. Im sure that you have been moody or hateful yourself at one time or another Wink

Yeah, everyone's been moody or hateful towards somebody else at some point in their lives, that's a given.
What this person, and many others, were trying to say, was that how come if a white person is hateful or disrespectful towards a black person, they're immediately racist, but if a black (or, for argument's sake, an Asian or Hispanic person) is disrespectful or rude to a white person, nobody says anything?
Like I've tried pointing out, I hate 'bad' white people just as much as I hate 'bad' black people (or Asian people, or Middle Eastern people - Hispanic people aren't terribly common in Australian society), but nobody bothers to think about that - they just hear me going on about some rude black person I've encountered and assume I'm an outright racist, but if a white person had treated me the same way I'd be just as annoyed.
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July 7th, 2007 at 07:46am
Racism is wrong on all parts no matter who says it. I think it's wrong for anyone to disrespect anyone of race, ethnic group, sexual orientation, or religion despite whatever race they are. I don't care if you had a bad experience with someone from a different race or someone called you a racist word. I've experienced both. If someone offends me I wouldn't insult them back by calling them anything that would be offensive to their race because their racial background would never be the cause of why they bother me. I'm probably one of the most political correct color blind people you'll ever meet. There is no fucking excuse for racism. There is nothing bad or good about being a certain race. There really is nothing to be proud of either. Being African American isn't a accomplishment. It's just what I am. Big Whoop.

And don't give me the "but black people use the n-word all the time" bullshit. Who cares! If you're not African American, you can't say it. Why would you want to anyways? I hate that word. I hate the sound of it. I hate the look of it. Everything about it send me to a crazy level of fury. There have been huge epic sized debates between African Americans about this topic so it's not like everyone is fine with the "We're making it into something positive" bullshit either. When I met people the last thing on my mind is their race or background. It's are they respectful, trustworthy, or honest? I have friends in all colors and shades that have those qualities. Not all African American males are hiding in alleys ready to steal your purse or have children with all different mothers. I live in a working to middle class African American neighborhood and I can't think of anyone who fits that description. That just how the media likes to portray them. "Oh No! Here Comes Big Scary Black Guy"! or "Dumb Silly Token Black Guy Who Says Dumb Slang Word like "That's Wack!" After A Joke.

And another thing sometimes people can't just pull themselves up by the bootstraps and get to it. Not everyone's situation is like yours. Sometimes people have emotional baggage that get in the way as well. So don't say that all poor minorities are that way because they choose to be because that isn't always the case.

And one more thing, even though slavery happened a long time ago, the effects of it are still evident today. I see it all the time.


Note that this isn't pointed at anyone persay. I'm just touching on issues that have come up on the last few pages. Mr. Green
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July 9th, 2007 at 11:06pm
I forgot to say I hope I am not offending anybody. My grandmother told me this that I did not know about my family on her side, my great grandmother family fought for the south and my great grandfather family fought for the north, my great grandfather's mother uncle was killed because he fought for the north and he lived in the south, they hung him from a tree and tortured him this was in the old Alabama history books, I dont believe in raism more because of that, and I was raised not to judge people by the color of their skin. I really hope I did offend anybody.
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July 9th, 2007 at 11:58pm
Racism

Im ganna get my ass kicked

Seems like Black/Mexican people are more Racist around here then White people. White kids get jumped in my school for being white. I ALWAYS hear people talk trash about white people, but white people don't really do anything to the Black and Mexican kids. On the tellie, Black people always talk tgrash about white guys, but if a white guy says ANYTHING about a minority, he's a racist pig.

I have also noticed that a LOT of Blacks and Mexicans chose to be part of the ghetto culture, which really makes the clean cut ones look bad. I think as far as stereotyping goes, every stereotype comes from some truth, and the truth is that damn near 89% of the Black/Mexican kids at our school choose to act like trash instead of working hard and rising above. Im not being racist, im being a realist.
It sucks, because I have heard some of my black friends complain about getting in trouble with the law or being stereotyped because of teh color of their skin, and then go on to personally complain about how most teens of their race buy into the idea of acting like shithead ghetto kids.
I feel bad for those friends that I mentioned. One time my friend Marco (Imagine a little gay Mexican emo boy) was telling me how ashamed he was to be Latino, and I just wanted to hug him, because NO ONE should hate who they are.

*groans*

I understand. Not every minority is a racist, and not every white guy is innocent, but that seems to be how is generally is around where I live an on TV...
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July 10th, 2007 at 12:43am
wow....thats a lot of words....how long did it take to type all that....anywho..........
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and there is my view on the subject. =)
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July 10th, 2007 at 10:51am
Please note that what happens at your little high school isn't not a reflection of the entire country. There is a world outside of High School. And question! Where do you guys live? Because some of this make more sense if some of you said you lived in Mississippi or Australia. Note that I know that not everyone who lives in those areas are not racist. But in those areas many people tend to be stuck in the past.