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Elle_Vie
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July 15th, 2007 at 12:51am
HaHa BoB's Dead:
wow....thats a lot of words....how long did it take to type all that....anywho..........
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and there is my view on the subject. =)


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July 15th, 2007 at 02:14am
Everyone is racist.
It's human nature to think you're better, maybe in religion, race, or sex.
I'm not really racist like I absolutely hate another race, but it makes sence to like your group better, doesn't it?

Now, what annoys me most;
"You hate me 'cause I'm black!"
"You hate me 'cause I'm a mexican!"
The first one, well...everyone says it. As a joke, or they actually think they're black but they're asian or something.
And the second one is offensive to me because I'm hispanic, but I'm not mexican.

Sometimes people take the hate of a certain group too far. But you can't blame them, many times they grow up with that belief in their head.

There is a lot of hate in the world, and it will never be entirely gone.

I think that a part of racism is assuming that all asians are Chinese, all latinos are Mexican,etc. I think it quite ignorant race-wise.

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Racism isn't in skin color. I mean, we're all latinos but the countries discriminate eachother a lot.
I've personally heard a lot about Mexico, Venezuela, Argentina, and Peru.
I've even heard some about my own country and how we're such useless slobs, and drug dealers.
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July 15th, 2007 at 02:24am
^ EXACTLY! thats it, but we can get over our selves and not just think of only your own race as the best
Millstone
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July 15th, 2007 at 10:49pm
There is a lot of things that attribute to racism. I really don't think that's the main cause. I believe everyone is equal. I don't place other above anyone because of race, religion, sexual orientation, or gender. And I know several other people has this point of view as well. I think anyone who does might have a bit of an self- esteem issue.

Anyways has anyone ever seen American History X? I just did a few days ago. Man did that movie depress me. I really wanted a happy ending but it defiantly made me think. It is just one big cycle of hate and that there is no one race responsible for racism. An Mexican American can as be just as racist as a KKK member. So it's up to everyone open their eyes, know that one person is not a representative of an entire race of people, and realize that people are more alike than different if you really look and meet people.

And even though racism is still present today, you can't use that as an excuse for your failures. You just have to keep trying even you have to work twice as hard as everyone else because no one is going to give out handouts.
AmandaAdenine
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July 16th, 2007 at 09:37pm
Racism is stupid because....
The color of your skin does not effect how smart you are

Now it's all about how smart you are in life and how well you present yourself to the public. No one should be able to discrimanate against you because of your skin color, because in this day and age we don't need whiny people who are gonna complain and think that they didn't get the job because of the color. I am black but I still think its kinda stupid to just sit around an whine because I didn't get the job because I am black, I don't say that ever, I am not even old enough to get a job, but you see that happening all the time. Why don't you just go out for another job and prove that person wrong if you think thats the case.

People are looking for people who can do the job right, even when you get the job no matter what race you are you are going to have to prove that you earned the job correctly, they won't keep a person employed if they can't do the job right....
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July 17th, 2007 at 01:44am
^ Racism is not about how smart you are. It used to be about whites believing that they were superior in every way to blacks, but in today's society it's more about fear and the stereotypes that exist pertaining to black people.
For instance, you mentioned gaining employment - it's not that a black applicant won't get picked over a white applicant because the employer believes the white person is smarter - it's because the employer believes that if they give the black person the job, they might steal from the till, show up for work late, start selling drugs under the counter, etc.
It's not intelligence that's the issue, it's perceived attitudes and behaviours.
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August 1st, 2007 at 09:23am
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I admit it.
Im rasict.
But in New Zealand; That's kinda first nature.
We have alot of different cultures here.

The reason im rasict is because the native people of this land [maoris] or brown.
And when the white people first came to NZ, They basically taunted them for being a different colour, And that still happens, Even today.

I go to a VERY rasicm oreintated school.

We get labels and racism flying around all the time.
Personally: I only get racist if someone says something to me first.

Im VERY touchy about it, Im never racist to someone who doesnt deserve it.
But if they try to start something, I have no hesitation in saying something back.

Just because white people get in trouble for calling a black person "nigger"
Doesnt mean that the black person should get off calling a white person "Whitey"

It's all offencive.
So, because one person is a racist douche to you, that gives you the right to be one, too?
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August 1st, 2007 at 09:38am
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It's common knowledge that a lot of white Australians are the descendants of convicts brought here in chains in the late 1700's to mid 1800's from Britain. But I have never once heard of anybody saying, 'Oh, you don't know what it's like for me, blah blah blah dragged here in chains against my will,' etc, which is essentially what black Americans do. And why do white Aussies not do the same? It's because they know full well that it wasn't THEM being brought here for something as simple as stealing a loaf of bread to feed a starving family, or prostituting themselves to get enough money for a bed to sleep in that night - it was someone they've never even met, years and years and years before they were even born. Therefore, it doesn't affect them.

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But they actually DID something that warranted them being dragged over somewhere. And the white settlers went over there and screwed the natives over. They went from being the opressed(though, gulity opressed) to the opressors. So, for you to draw a comparison between black slaves brought over to this America and the conivcts who were sent to Austrailia, it's a big stretch.

Believe it or not, racism is still quite prevalent in American society today, and the ramifactions of slavery and segregation are still felt. And that's a very big part of why blacks and other minorities are still behind. And no, I'm not making excuses, because I know how absolutely worthless so many african-americans act. I don't know why they won't realize that this society doesn't give a damn and they have help themselves instead of waiting for handouts. I know all this, I see it all the time, but to deny that the affects of centuries of slavery and segragation just magically went away when they created Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. day is just ignorant.
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August 1st, 2007 at 09:45am
Why is it always a black and white issue? There are other races. You know who has it worse than blacks? Native Americans. Their population was decimated, their land was stolen, they were put on barren reservations where most of them are today. I have never met a person who is fully Native American. I just have a white friend who loves to talk about her indian blood.Rolling Eyes

Think carefully. have you ever met somebody who was fully Native American? Or even mostly of Native American hertiage? If so, how many?

They have the such high levels of poverty, alchol abuse, heart disease, suicide. low life expectancy.. It's tragic, because nobody talks about this. They just leave Native Americans to rot on their reservations. Blah, blah, blah, casinos, my ass.
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August 1st, 2007 at 03:09pm
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Why is it always a black and white issue? There are other races. You know who has it worse than blacks? Native Americans. Their population was decimated, their land was stolen, they were put on barren reservations where most of them are today. I have never met a person who is fully Native American. I just have a white friend who loves to talk about her indian blood.Rolling Eyes

Think carefully. have you ever met somebody who was fully Native American? Or even mostly of Native American hertiage? If so, how many?

They have the such high levels of poverty, alchol abuse, heart disease, suicide. low life expectancy.. It's tragic, because nobody talks about this. They just leave Native Americans to rot on their reservations. Blah, blah, blah, casinos, my ass.
Mr.Armstrong
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August 1st, 2007 at 06:25pm
Racism is stupid i agree with that.but whats the point in being a racist and degrating someones skin color when the persons personality and the persons actions matter the most.
not everyone is a racist but yeah most people are racists you can say that for sure.
but color dosent matter the person you are matters
Kaede
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August 5th, 2007 at 12:45pm
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Now, what annoys me most;
"You hate me 'cause I'm black!"
"You hate me 'cause I'm a mexican!"
The first one, well...everyone says it. As a joke, or they actually think they're black but they're asian or something.
And the second one is offensive to me because I'm hispanic, but I'm not mexican.

Sometimes people take the hate of a certain group too far. But you can't blame them, many times they grow up with that belief in their head.

There is a lot of hate in the world, and it will never be entirely gone.

I think that a part of racism is assuming that all asians are Chinese, all latinos are Mexican,etc. I think it quite ignorant race-wise.



That makes me very angry. Sometimes the ones that are racist are the ones that bring it up. If any of you read a short story called "The Sense of Belonging" you would see why. It happens everywhere. Its unavoidable because we, as human beings are like that. Its the way we are brought up. There are people who are more racist then others, and there are people who don't think about it at all.
Toro-esqe
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August 5th, 2007 at 10:17pm
ok, peoples lets talk this out. i wanted to read through the pages before posting, but just had to say something.

racism is any animosity towards other races; prejudice or animosity against people who belong to other races.

racism as much as it sucks still exist to date.

one thing i noted was a question about black people using the 'n' word. [ i should mention i am a black]. using the 'n' word is not okay for ANYONE. i dont care if you are black, white, asian, middle eastern.. it DOES NOT matter. the 'n' word is a degrading term that should not be used. when you see or hear a black person using the 'n' word know and remember they are in now way a representation of the black community. they are just one of the many that continue uneducated as to their history and the magnitude to which that word demeans them.

so just to say know that the 'n' word like many negative terms in my opinion [yes all those famous four letter words] are only used by people lacking in the ability to express themselves as an educated person.

reverting back to the subject, being the person i am.. black, young, female, and a true born punk rocker who wishes to have flowers in her hair [translation: dude, i'm such a modern-aged hippie/yuppie/punk rocker and all other great things. SCORE!] there are so many things i've encountered concerning racism that frankly are just unfair. even with all the great friends i've made who share my passion for particular movies, MUSIC, styles, & whatever else i still find people who give me looks and question my authenticity. i mean shouldnt a girl go into Hot Topic without being given a questionable look?? [no offense to u Hot Topic fans. maybe its just the mindset in the south.lol. oh and there are much better finds at vintage stores. im serious dolls check them out]

all im saying is i believe in love, peace and unity. the only type of person i cant stand is a person who holds hate in their heart. if we really want 'this' to change then look past the visible and i mean more than the clothes, hair, skin, or whatever else.

wouldnt MCR be proud to know all their fans feel welcomed??

dude.Love*LugNuts.Sosickprincess.
Little Miss Bad
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August 5th, 2007 at 11:44pm
ah racism is so stupid for me

we are all the same under the skin!!!
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August 6th, 2007 at 12:05am
Racism is, like some of you already said, retarded.
Everybody should go and watch the film "American History X",
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August 6th, 2007 at 12:13am
^^with edward norton!! amazing movie.


i agree with those of you who say that racism isn't just based on color. i mean, i look pretty much "white", but i'm iranian. so this guy at my school who knew that called me a terrorist when i defended this guy he was bullying.
but isn't it interesting that if he didn't know me, and didn't know my heritage, he might have insulted me otherwise, maybe less hurtfully? because it's hurtful to be discriminated against for something you didn't choose, something that is a part of you.
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August 6th, 2007 at 02:20am
streaks in the sky.:
Why is it always a black and white issue? There are other races.

For one, I personally can't say anything about races like Native Americans, Hispanics etc, because I have no personal experience with them - only white Australians, Australian Aborigines, and some Lebanese immigrants.

streaks in the sky.:
They just leave Native Americans to rot on their reservations. Blah, blah, blah, casinos, my ass.
Hate to say it, but maybe that's what they need? Now, before you jump down my throat calling me a heartless monster, let's take a look at the situation in Australia: the government has tried and tried and tried again to satisfy the indigenous people by providing them with housing, medical assistance, education, etc. What do they do with it? They spend their welfare money on alcohol, sniff petrol and take drugs. They destroy the public housing they've been provided with, then demand that taxpayers fund new homes for them to live in until they get drunk and burn them down. They refuse to take their children or themselves to doctors because they believe their 'bush medicine' is the cure to everything (but what they fail to realise is that bush medicine only worked for illnesses present before white people came along and brought things like influenza, which need real medical attention, not a freaking eucalytpus compress). They're usually too drunk or high to make sure their children are dressed, let alone send them to school in order to better themselves. Sexual abuse is rampant - 12-year-old girls giving birth, 3-year-olds being raped.... alcohol and drug abuse is a huge issue... and teenagers are running riot - burning down houses, throwing rocks through windows and at cars, laying seige to the local police station, rioting on a very regular basis.
Now, this is what happens when they're left to their own devices.
But, God forbid us civilized white step in and try to give them a helping hand - if we try and, say, ban alcohol from their territories or make medical check-ups for children under 16 mandatory, or threaten to take away their welfare money if they don't ensure their kids are attending school regularly, we're filthy racists who are trying to control them. Not help them or try and make their lives better, no - we're trying to take over them and force them into submission.
It's bull - because our Prime Minister has sat on his hands for ten years, determined not to interfere because he, like the rest of us, believes the indigenous people have a right to live their lives the way they want, and now everyone's waving their arms in the air and crying, 'You heartless bastard, why didn't you do something about this problem years ago?' and when he says, 'I figured leave them to their own devices,' they call him racist. But, now that he has stepped in and started implementing measures to ensure children aren't being raped and alcoholism is stamped out, he's being called racist anyway, for 'wanting to control the aborigines'.
It's a no-win situation - we're damned if we do, and damned if we don't. Indigenous cultures all around the world are doing it - look at the Native Americans, killing themselves with alcoholism the way Australian Aborigines are. Africans are killing themselves with AIDS, and African-Americans are killing themselves with crack and gang warfare. And they can't or won't be helped or taught - if whites try to step in and give them a helping hand, we're considered racist and controlling. If we leave them to rot (even while providing them with things like public housing and constant welfare money), we're heartless, racist bastards who don't care about ethnic groups. And, if we try and do the right thing like the Australian government did decades ago, and take abused children from their unfit parents and raise them in white homes where they learn to be functional members of society, we'd have another stolen generation on our hands.
So, there are the options - no matter what we do, we're racist. So maybe the US government is onto something by just letting the natives kill themselves - if they don't want help, and can't help themselves, what can be done about it?
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August 6th, 2007 at 02:33am
i think this is the most stupidest thing ever, i've been affected alot by this, i was one of the only white kids in the school near the mexican boarder, and it was pretty bad before, but when like 2 years ago when President Bush started to get harder on immagartion to the USA, guess who got alot of shit. Its stupid, singling out a person for things they have no control over, wow they look fing different, let's go beat 'em up. Human being can but a man on the moon, can cure dieses and so forth yet we're so ignarnant we can't tolorate the people who look slightly different from you.
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August 6th, 2007 at 05:37am
"Now, this is what happens when they're left to their own devices.
But, God forbid us civilized white step in and try to give them a helping hand "

Us civilized white? Do you realize how ethnocentric that sounds? And do you also realize that those same "civilized whites" are the root problem for many of the crises facing indigenous population. If you think they brought some shining light of civilization to the different corners of the world, you are sadly mstaken. They did nothing but exploit the people and drain the land of their resources. They never tried to help better anybody and was not their place to decide whether their culture was the best and impose, in the first place.

You don't seem to get it. After the U.S. stole the land from the Native population, they put them on barren reservations and left them there. The end. You talk about about taking children and putting them in white homes(because that's the only way they will learn to be functional members of society, right?). It has been done before. The Americans took Cherokee children and put them in anglo schools and with anglo families. All that it did was strip the children of their Indian heritage and make menial servants of them.

You are a racist whether you accept it or not.
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August 6th, 2007 at 06:01am
streaks in the sky.:
"Now, this is what happens when they're left to their own devices.
But, God forbid us civilized white step in and try to give them a helping hand "

Us civilized white? Do you realize how ethnocentric that sounds? And do you also realize that those same "civilized whites" are the root problem for many of the crises facing indigenous population. If you think they brought some shining light of civilization to the different corners of the world, you are sadly mstaken. They did nothing but exploit the people and drain the land of their resources. They never tried to help better anybody and was not their place to decide whether their culture was the best and impose, in the first place.

You don't seem to get it. After the U.S. stole the land from the Native population, they put them on barren reservations and left them there. The end. You talk about about taking children and putting them in white homes(because that's the only way they will learn to be functional members of society, right?). It has been done before. The Americans took Cherokee children and put them in anglo schools and with anglo families. All that it did was strip the children of their Indian heritage and make menial servants of them.

You are a racist whether you accept it or not.
Well, I look at it this way: Sure, 200 years ago the white people f***ed up and made some mistakes, like invading other countries and destroying their cultures. I'm not going to apologise for that because I didn't do it, I wasn't responsible for it, and while I feel bad for the people it happened to, hey, I can't change the fact that it happened. I'm not saying what the whites did was right, by any means. But the fact is, they didn't know any better, and nothing is going to turn back the clock and change what they did. You're right, they didn't have any right to drain the land of resources, displace the natives and impose their culture on everyone else - but they thought they were doing what was best, and it was a big mistake. But like I said, nothing's going to change what's been done, we can only try and make up for it by bettering their present situation.
So now, they have the opportunity to help the people they've messed up, and the ethnic groups either don't want or can't be helped, no matter what methods we try. Like I said, we leave them alone to get on with their lives and rebuild things themselves, and they just waste away. We try to step in and give them privileges like welfare money, free housing (whereas my husband and I would have to pay upwards of $300,000 for a house, an ethnic person would get one practically for free), etc, they complain and call us racist. You can't win.

And as far as 'civilised' goes, well, when the white people came here, Aborigines were still living in caves and wearing kangaroo skins, and eating worms from under tree roots. Meanwhile the English had mastered tailoring, cooking, building, etc... so yes, we were more civilised than the natives. I don't see that as a bad thing - you probably cheer every time some new, great invention comes out, and so do I - advancing as a race is not a negative thing.