I Don't Love You

I dont think its about Bert but im not quite sure what its about one of my friends thinks that it might be about Eliza... but if you ask me i dont have a fuckin clue

i think its to do with a guy (possibly gerard) loving a girl and then she does something to upset him ('so sick and tired of all the needless beatings') and hes just had enough of her so he doesn't love her anymore

The bert theory does make a lot of sense becuase they used to be friends and now they're not and neither side will tell why. it could be possible that gerard was getting clean and bert wasn't and that ended the relationship but they didn't want to say that to the cameras becuase it's personal and niether one wanted to sound like a saint. the lyrics also match the idea, thank you i didn't know what hte song was really about until this =)

What were the LOTMS lyrics to IDLY?

Bert and Gerard????? Am I missing something?

I don't love you. Is personally my favorite song.

I could be really off about this but I think it's about a guy (Gerard) and a girl (insert name here)having a relationship and she didn't love him anymore but didn't tell him even thought he knew that she didn't and he went to her house and he walked inside and she had a gun and was going to kill herself and he saw her and said "I Dont Love You" that what I think and once again I could be really off.

Guys, r u sure G & Bert had that kind of relationship? I'm not ruling it out -- its entirely possible -- but i dunno that the whole song is about him. Although the gloves & the references to self-destruction may have been inspired by Bert.

maybe its partially about their broken friendship, as well as smthg bigger. just like most of their songs that stem from a central topic but end up meaning a lot more as well, to them & to us

To me, it sounds like a conversation rather than one person talking in one verse and the other replying in the second, especially (or, mostly) "Sometimes I cry so hard from pleading, so sick and tired of all the needless beating." The other person would respond "Baby, when they knock you, down and out is where you oughta stay." I like to think it's how The Patient (or Gerard) is remembering the falling out.

The Collision:

What were the LOTMS lyrics to IDLY?

I believe he said "We can't even look at you this way. But I did, and I loved you just the same. When you go, would you even turn to say: I don't love you like I did yesterday."

To me the song is like you say you love somebody but the next day you moved on

I think its about Eliza cause she was a hairdresser and the line "Another dollar's just another blow"?If that makes ANY sense at all!

Tbh i dont think its about bert, maybe just about lost love altogether :/
its a rly meaningful song tho, i dunnno if it cheeers me up or makes me worse :/

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i think it means something like...

when u wake up you just dont feel the same about someone when a major change happens in a couples life like fights, cheating, false pregnancys, etc.
or if the feeling of love gets ripped out of you when u r forced to move on

I don't think it's about Eliza, since they broke up a while after the cd was released. It's most likely about Bert.

Well me and my friend both agree how this song is about how much he loves his mothers cat called chuckles, because when he says "better get out" he is so obviously talking about her going out of the cat flap.

He then goes on to explain how he is late 4 his quantum physics lesson with a man called Derek and hoe he keeps getting pressured for help from his art teacher.

so thats pretty much it

O and if you listen very very carefully he shouts dump and gutted in the chorus

yeah, i agree about the chuckles theory, and about the quantum physics classes...

its very faint, but you can just make out "dump!" and "gutted!" every so often in the chorus

however, my heart is telling me that the real issue here, is how many people are ashamed of being sexually attracted to animals (such as chuckles) and this song is to raise awareness...

i so very glad you agree with me ^^^

The gutted and dumps almost sound like they are being shouted from a group of teenagers called oli, clara, mark and alice!

Almost like thier stood in the middle of a playground, but i think the dumps and gutted are trying to tell a story about how and man called wilko and miki got together and had a baby DJ, i dont know why i think this just the tone of his voice gives me that impression


Entitled To My Own Opinion !!!!!

i almost get the feeling he's talking to a prostitute. i mean, theres a dual meaning obviously, cuz it can also tie into the "story" of the album. (the patients lover couldnt handle his disease, left him, etc.) but i get the feeling theres more to this song than meets the eye

i think its sort of like...a person fell in love with someone, but then found out they're a prostitute and that they couldn't really love them back. or maybe its a different form of self destruction, but i get the feeling it has to do with soliciting sex.

"And after all this time that you still owe" > possibly indicating that the person is a prostitute because of money issues
"You're still the good-for-nothing I don't know"> a big reason i think this person is a prostitute

"Sometimes I cry so hard from pleading
So sick and tired of all the needless beating
But baby when they knock you
Down and out
It's where you oughta stay"> he tries to plead with her to change her ways, but she wont, causing him to be disgusted with her. she gets hurt during her line of work, and gerard finds it all very pointless, thinking she could walk away any time.

"And after all the blood that you still owe
Another dollar's just another blow > like a...you know. main reason for thinking its prostitution
So fix your eyes and get up
Better get up"> if she's not going to try find a different job, she had better get up and continue. (sarcasm)


i guess it could also be about drugs...but i just feel really strongely about the prostitution thing. *shurgs* who knows? its just my take.

Stewie G. Griffin:

To me, it's like a conversation between Gerard and 'Kat': A catalyst to their break up.

Gerard sings parts of the song from Kat's perspective. Like she was there while he battled his addictions and got the band started but it was too much, or on the flip side, not enough...

Lines like 'After all the time that you still owe, your still a good for nothing I don't know'; like even after touring with Three Cheers, he hasn't changed and his demons are still there

'Take your gloves and get out'...I associated that with Gerard wearing the Skeleton gloves and so on.

'And after all the blood that you still owe, another dollar's just another blow' Like she realizes that everyone wants a piece of him; the fans, record label, t.v...and it's to much to deal with

'So fix your eyes and get out "Fix your eye make-up; your public awaits"... like she's being bitter or sarcastic towards him.

To me, it's like Kat tried to deal with Gerard and the band blowing up, but couldn't; he didn't give her the 100% percent he gave the band.
Yeah... my interpretation.

When you go... dont ever think I'll make you try to stay. And maybe when you get back, I'll be off to find another way... Kat was telling him that when he leaves (for tour or something), she wont make him stay even though she wants him to. And that maybe, when he comes home, she'll have found another Way...Someone to replace Gerard.

I just though of that one.

The song was around long before Eliza and the whole Bert thing, and just like 'Stay' it went through different incarnations before we got what was on TBP.
So, from here, I think it's safe to say IDLY was NOT about Eliza or Bert McCracken.
Nor did Bert or Gerard have a relationship. They were friends. That's all.

I Personaly Think this song is about Loving someone, but having to let go, beacause they dont love you, and then soon not loving them anymore, or being confused, and losing all hope, therefore giving up
i feel this way about the gu i like

Okay I sound crazy thinking this but I remember somewhere I read where Cancer was about how Gerard's realtionship cause during the making of their album thats when it all ended and before that Eliza was around. Trying hard to be with him but he refused cause he was with his ex then even though they'd talk but she wanted more but Gerard said he loved his girlfriend then. I hope I don't confuse anyone.
I'm just putting in a guess. Cause after that I know Eliza got closer to him after he left his ex and all that. Oh great now I confused my own self.