Frerardness, is it appropriate?

why do people have to escalate things 3089235423 times more then they really should be?

lets just get real.
2 boys kissing is no big.
if you arent old enough to handle it,
or are just completely against that stuff,
what can we tell you?
just dont go.

talking about it here wont in any way change their show.
:]

I feel that Frerard is Gerard's and Franks own personal way of stamping out homophobia. It is the fans that obsess over it and mill it over time and time again. When in reality all it boils down to is a stand against homophobic people and trying to change the world and its prejudice views.

I doubt Frank and Gerard plan it either. I also doubt they would do it if the other was uncomfortable with it or their partners. They have openly rejected Kissing on demand, when asked to do so in interviews. People should stop picking over something that's not there and just congratulate the boys for sending out such a vital message.

And as for the fan-ficts. You should all realize that's what they are and nothing more. It's just fiction. If you don't like it then don't read it. I write Frerard and its got more of a plot than them just making out every five seconds. It's just my way of being creative. I love to write, I love My Chem, I love Ray, I love Bob, I love Mikey, I love Frank and I love Gerard. What better way can you think of than combining all your passions together? And by making it a Frerard in my own personal way too I'm taking a stand against homophobia.

I would also like to point out that I am NOT a teenie just because I'm an author of a Frerard. If my story was that bad and just involve 'boysex' I doubt I would have won author of the month with it 4 times in a row. Just because I write Frerard it doesn't give any one the right to slander me and other authors. I don't go around writing 'Mrs Gerard Way' on everything or talk about how HOT Frank is. I have respect for the guys and they have respect for creativity.

Come on guys we all know Frerard isn't real and its just a joke that fans play on

Exactly.

Frerard isn't something that should be taken seriously, it's part of their show. This is why the guys do it, to spark reactions. Outrage, shock.. whatever. It shows the fans that they're comfortable in their sexuality and everyone else should be too. If the girlfriends opposed to it do you think that Frerard would still be going on?

It doesn't compromise the music or, for that matter, the show. Gaps where Gerard speaks out about depression aren't filled with his tongue down Frank's throat. It's all part of the show, the point is that the music speaks for them and, at the end of the day, they're just mucking around.

Honestly? All age groups should be able to deal with two guys kissing, it's not a huge deal. Parents don't like it? So what? If you're going to stop listening to the band because of that then you're slightly pathetic.

^^
Hmm...
Couldn't agree more.

I know I kind of said this before, but I wanted to say it again to be more clear.

I don't think they do it for attention, I think it's passion, like I said before. It's a totally unplanned, moment of passion. These guys are really passionate about their music, and playing shows for us. I mean, I don't think Gerard means to be so sexual because he sure as hell isn't like that off stage. I don't think Gerard could play a show without touching himself or someone else because he just gets so caught up in the passion they put into their music.

And again, I really don't get what the all the hype is about. I really don't see how a simple kiss can put so many people up in arms. It's just part of the show, it's just what they do.

I think thats just who they are as people....


On Stage.




Like x_pansy said, theyre nothing like that off stage. and as Ray and Gerard said in LOTMS, people are just completly different once you get up there. Everything comes out and hey, if Gerard was a little horny at the time maybe he just wanted to express it through that


Personally, its not a big deal for me. Im not into Guy/Guy stuff but I find it funny as hell somehow and just pure entertainment.

i've said this a couple of pages back but it seems to have been over looked. everyone's looking at the frerard-ness from a striaght persons POV but what about the gay/bi community of mcr fans?

please read/discuss.

PersonalServices101:

i'd just like to point out, think about it like this. imagine being in the closet for a long time because you're scared shitless of what people will think of you. the only way you can truely be yourself is to be sneaky about it and hide it from people.
then there's this band who don't give a fuck and do it all [well obviousy not ALL] on stage infront of thousands of peoples. it makes them feel better. i'm striaght myself but my best friend is gay and i know it was hard for him until he started going to see mcr.
as gerard has said many times, the shows are also a safe place for young homosexual teenagers to be themselves. and if not for that, ITS JUST FUN.

^ how are they making fools of themself though?!
=/.
i really don't see how two guys kissing on stage qualifies as making fools of themself.

and as for someone's post that they felt uncomfortable and concerned for their safety when gee told all the guys to take their tops off: i'm sorry, and i do not mean this in a nasty way at all, but mcr aren't to blame for people's insecurities.
what does it matter if guys have their tops on or not? it's doesn't make them any more testosterone fueled in a situation like that. half of them were probably shirtless beforehand because of the heat!
it's not like gerard told every guy in there to start hitting on all the girls.
he asked them to take their shirts off. gerard would never put anyone in the crowd in danger, purposely.

again sorry if i offend anyone, im feeling really uncomfortable with this thread now,
because its causing arguements between people and because i dont feel comfortable with talking about MCR in that way
now i know people are going to be like 'stop coming to this thread then'
but im just trying to say that maybe people need to lay off them a bit, i mean fair enough you all have you opinions but what they are doing shouldn't affect how you feel about MCR (and being their fan aswell) and your support for them.
(sorry for any offence caused)

Felix Felicis:

:] You're right, it really shouldn't make a differene about how we feel about MCR.
However, I am just considering this a friendly debate.
And, don't worry about offending anyone.
It didn't seem in anyway in your post that you could, unless someone was offended by people being conscientious.

awww thank you
i feel better now
its just they way some people are talkling about it as if its a bad thing

Felix Felicis:

I know, and I actually don't have a problem with "Frerardness", I just personally prefer speeches opposed to kissing.
My opinion, that's all, people have their's, and I thought I'd throw mine in the lot.
And I suppose the previous posts of mine sounded a bit harsh because it was early for me, and let's face it, I'm not a morning person. :]

lol and me!!
so if i ever seem snappy, its because im tired lol
i just wanted to people to understand that its not a bad thing

yep :s sorry :]
ill stop now!!

PlasticDreams-x:

Exactly.

Frerard isn't something that should be taken seriously, it's part of their show. This is why the guys do it, to spark reactions. Outrage, shock.. whatever. It shows the fans that they're comfortable in their sexuality and everyone else should be too. If the girlfriends opposed to it do you think that Frerard would still be going on?

It doesn't compromise the music or, for that matter, the show. Gaps where Gerard speaks out about depression aren't filled with his tongue down Frank's throat. It's all part of the show, the point is that the music speaks for them and, at the end of the day, they're just mucking around.

Honestly? All age groups should be able to deal with two guys kissing, it's not a huge deal. Parents don't like it? So what? If you're going to stop listening to the band because of that then you're slightly pathetic.

VERY VERY WELL PUT.

Alive and Inspired.:

HeadfirstHalo:

I also hate how you guys think that people will go just for that, what planet do you live on exactly? I find it hard to imagine that people who AREN'T part of this fandom already will get to hear about this sort of thing. It's not exactly the talk of the town, the only people who care about frerard are the people who are already fans, or other people who happen to see it at a festival. So it's not going to attract some mad rush of teenagers, desperate to see the band live so they can maybe see Gerard rub franks chest, or a kiss if they're lucky.

Im never really going to leave their fan base, but think about all the people who might. All the parents looking over their young daughters/sons shoulders and seeing the lead singer grope himself? Kiss the guitarist? I mean they might not WANT to become an ex fan but be realistic, some parents are NEVER going to allow it!
And if the person comes from a homophobic family then theres absolutely no way the family will stand for it!

Charli:

I have a question. Because surely if only the music matters then it's only the music you notice? Even though they are interacting more they are producing some of the best performances ever.

Just a suggestion.

So if the performance is all about music, then why should they do it? Theres no reason to. And imagine all the kids who are going and have to go with parents, are the parents ever going to allow them to go to a concert again?
Think about some of the younger fans, or fans who think this is downright inappropriate.

And I know its been going on for a long time, but why has it suddenly exploded now?
What about the guys GF's?

But let me ask you this, why have they replaced the life changing speeches for this?
I mean that was something to be proud about! And now.... I cant explain why they do it to other people if they ask me...

exactlyim 13 and if they did that at the concert we went to my mom would probably never let me see them again or my little sister who only wants to be thier for bob....(hes her hero)but exactly what happend to the speeches??? ive been getting kind of upset at them lately...i dont really know why though?