Your Country's Government.

George Bush- I really dont have an opinion of him as a person like a lot of people do. I disagree with many things he says and has done but on the other hand I dont think he's done suck a horrible job as many people think he has. He's actually improved the economy since Clinton practically left it in ruins. Im not for the war at all, however, and cant BELIEVE that someone could have such disrespect for gay rights.

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Vault_713:

George Bush- I really dont have an opinion of him as a person like a lot of people do. I disagree with many things he says and has done but on the other hand I dont think he's done suck a horrible job as many people think he has. He's actually improved the economy since Clinton practically left it in ruins. Im not for the war at all, however, and cant BELIEVE that someone could have such disrespect for gay rights.

Clinton left the economy in ruins? When he left office, the U.S. had a surplus. We were beginning to work off our debt. George Bush has done nothing but destroy that in the last seven years.

Ruled By Secrecy.:

i highly doubt we are ready for a woman president.

What do you mean "not ready"?

ayn_inverse:

Vault_713:

George Bush- I really dont have an opinion of him as a person like a lot of people do. I disagree with many things he says and has done but on the other hand I dont think he's done suck a horrible job as many people think he has. He's actually improved the economy since Clinton practically left it in ruins. Im not for the war at all, however, and cant BELIEVE that someone could have such disrespect for gay rights.

Clinton left the economy in ruins? When he left office, the U.S. had a surplus. We were beginning to work off our debt. George Bush has done nothing but destroy that in the last seven years.

u dont quite understand how it works. Yes, when Clinton was in office we were in a surplus but not for very long. Because of Clinton the economy rose dramatically but then dropped just as dramatically and Bush was left to pick up the pieces. Clinton had a great plan to boost the economy, but he had no plan at all to keep it up. No, the economy is not as good as it was at the "peak" of clintons time in office but at least its up and stable. Also, if you've have been watching the news lately u know that the stock exchange is higer than it has been in about 30 years.

Im not saying that I approve of Bush, Im just saying there ARE some things he's done right.

george bush
i suppose i don't support all of the decisions he's made, but that doesn't make me think he's a terrible president. everyone makes mistakes, including the president, and i don't think he deserves what people say about him.

i'm for him, though, i like his beliefs and morals. i admit, he may not be the best president the country has ever had... but he was elected.

i don't like when people say "oh i hate bush, he's a moron, he needs to die."
really, that's just rude. he worked hard to get where he is. i don't think people should critisize someone who has done something they haven't/can't.

even if you don't like him, or the choices he's made, that's really not a reason to /hate/ him. i had a friend who continually said that all republicans need to die [he's not my friend anymore XD]. i respect that he has his own opinions, but i don't appreciate him saying that republicans, my family and i, are morons who don't have a point in life, and are the reason that people suffer every day.

people need to get a little respect. *nod*

Vault_713:

ayn_inverse:

Vault_713:

George Bush- I really dont have an opinion of him as a person like a lot of people do. I disagree with many things he says and has done but on the other hand I dont think he's done suck a horrible job as many people think he has. He's actually improved the economy since Clinton practically left it in ruins. Im not for the war at all, however, and cant BELIEVE that someone could have such disrespect for gay rights.

Clinton left the economy in ruins? When he left office, the U.S. had a surplus. We were beginning to work off our debt. George Bush has done nothing but destroy that in the last seven years.

u dont quite understand how it works. Yes, when Clinton was in office we were in a surplus but not for very long. Because of Clinton the economy rose dramatically but then dropped just as dramatically and Bush was left to pick up the pieces. Clinton had a great plan to boost the economy, but he had no plan at all to keep it up. No, the economy is not as good as it was at the "peak" of clintons time in office but at least its up and stable. Also, if you've have been watching the news lately u know that the stock exchange is higer than it has been in about 30 years.

Im not saying that I approve of Bush, Im just saying there ARE some things he's done right.

I do understand how it works and I still disagree with you mostly because I disagree with wholeheartedly with the "trickle down system" of economics Bush has been using. Who's been benefiting from the tax cuts? Certainly not my family, since we've been paying more and more money year after year.

Plus there's the fact that when you start a war, you don't cut taxes. That certainly doesn't help matters.

Our debt is higher than it's ever been as is our budget deficit. The economy during Clinton's administration may have been just a part of a cycle, but it certainly wasn't as bad as the economy is now.

Stock exchange is NEVER a good indicator of how the economy is doing. My economics professor had a nice long lecture for us so that we wouldn't make the mistake using it as such.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. You can't blame Bush for our money troubles. It is the HOUSE that comes up with the yearly budget, NOT the president.

kelseddie.:

george bush
i suppose i don't support all of the decisions he's made, but that doesn't make me think he's a terrible president. everyone makes mistakes, including the president, and i don't think he deserves what people say about him.

i'm for him, though, i like his beliefs and morals. i admit, he may not be the best president the country has ever had... but he was elected.

i don't like when people say "oh i hate bush, he's a moron, he needs to die."
really, that's just rude. he worked hard to get where he is. i don't think people should critisize someone who has done something they haven't/can't.

even if you don't like him, or the choices he's made, that's really not a reason to /hate/ him. i had a friend who continually said that all republicans need to die [he's not my friend anymore XD]. i respect that he has his own opinions, but i don't appreciate him saying that republicans, my family and i, are morons who don't have a point in life, and are the reason that people suffer every day.

people need to get a little respect. *nod*

and thats a short list

http://www.iratecitizens.org/Dumbya/102Reasons.html

Yeh, hes not that bad...

ayn_inverse:

I do understand how it works and I still disagree with you mostly because I disagree with wholeheartedly with the "trickle down system" of economics Bush has been using. Who's been benefiting from the tax cuts? Certainly not my family, since we've been paying more and more money year after year.

Plus there's the fact that when you start a war, you don't cut taxes. That certainly doesn't help matters.

Our debt is higher than it's ever been as is our budget deficit. The economy during Clinton's administration may have been just a part of a cycle, but it certainly wasn't as bad as the economy is now.

Stock exchange is NEVER a good indicator of how the economy is doing. My economics professor had a nice long lecture for us so that we wouldn't make the mistake using it as such.

Ah, of course because everyone knows a college professor is the first person u should rely on to give u an unbiased analysis of our current administrations economy.... give me a break.

MrRandomGuy:

I've said it before and I'll say it again. You can't blame Bush for our money troubles. It is the HOUSE that comes up with the yearly budget, NOT the president.

very true. While the president may create a proposed plan, it is the house that decides wether his plan is applicable or not. The President can't be blamed for every flaw in our government. Thats the beauty of a democracy.

my country is in the middle of a huge crisis. we have no fuel. wich basicly means the economy is coming to a stop. right now i don't know if i can go to school on monday or not.

and yeah, fuck your stupid shallow comment Ruled By Secrecy.. You say that "america's government is the worst." i'd love to see you survive two weeks in south africa. according to your dad "the insurance such as health care is insane and ridiculous", right? hehe. every day thousands of women get raped, every minute more than one person die of aids... most people here don't even know what health care is.

i'm not trying to say my country is worse than yours - but don't come on here and make stupid comments and just complain cause your dad believes the president sucks. okay?

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ayn_inverse:

I do understand how it works and I still disagree with you mostly because I disagree with wholeheartedly with the "trickle down system" of economics Bush has been using. Who's been benefiting from the tax cuts? Certainly not my family, since we've been paying more and more money year after year.

Plus there's the fact that when you start a war, you don't cut taxes. That certainly doesn't help matters.

Our debt is higher than it's ever been as is our budget deficit. The economy during Clinton's administration may have been just a part of a cycle, but it certainly wasn't as bad as the economy is now.

Stock exchange is NEVER a good indicator of how the economy is doing. My economics professor had a nice long lecture for us so that we wouldn't make the mistake using it as such.

Quote: Ah, of course because everyone knows a college professor is the first person u should rely on to give u an unbiased analysis of our current administrations economy.... give me a break.

I never said I didn't think it was biased. I know that when I get information from a professor, specifically an economics professor, I have to take in account some bit of bias. Then again, when it comes to an issue of stock market as an indicator for how well the economy is doing, I hardly think that there's any bias to be found. It's simply "Can I use this to figure our if we're doing well or not?" The answer is no. There's no need to attack me for it. Grow up.

Furthermore, I realize that the situation our economy is in isn't entirely Bush's fault and I'm not blaming only him, just as I wasn't praising Clinton as if the surplus that we had was solely because of what he accomplished. I realize that there is more to it than that and I still don't like where our economy is at right now.

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Vault_713:

ayn_inverse:

I do understand how it works and I still disagree with you mostly because I disagree with wholeheartedly with the "trickle down system" of economics Bush has been using. Who's been benefiting from the tax cuts? Certainly not my family, since we've been paying more and more money year after year.

Plus there's the fact that when you start a war, you don't cut taxes. That certainly doesn't help matters.

Our debt is higher than it's ever been as is our budget deficit. The economy during Clinton's administration may have been just a part of a cycle, but it certainly wasn't as bad as the economy is now.

Stock exchange is NEVER a good indicator of how the economy is doing. My economics professor had a nice long lecture for us so that we wouldn't make the mistake using it as such.

Quote: Ah, of course because everyone knows a college professor is the first person u should rely on to give u an unbiased analysis of our current administrations economy.... give me a break.

I never said I didn't think it was biased. I know that when I get information from a professor, specifically an economics professor, I have to take in account some bit of bias. Then again, when it comes to an issue of stock market as an indicator for how well the economy is doing, I hardly think that there's any bias to be found. It's simply "Can I use this to figure our if we're doing well or not?" The answer is no. There's no need to attack me for it. Grow up.

Furthermore, I realize that the situation our economy is in isn't entirely Bush's fault and I'm not blaming only him, just as I wasn't praising Clinton as if the surplus that we had was solely because of what he accomplished. I realize that there is more to it than that and I still don't like where our economy is at right now.

well I guess we will have to agree to dissagree. I wasnt saying that the stock market is a direct reflection of the country's economy but u cant deny that if the economy was low, the stock market most certainly wouldnt be up. Its just common sense.

MrRandomGuy:

I've said it before and I'll say it again. You can't blame Bush for our money troubles. It is the HOUSE that comes up with the yearly budget, NOT the president.

Not everybody has a high paying job. A MAJORITY of people are not highly paid. When you give tax cuts to the rich, it only aids in bleeding the middle class and lower middle class dry. It's not fair. Also, many things such as insurance, food and gas prices have risen dramatically since Bush started his war. That also helps to pull money out of the average person's life. Bush is definitely to blame. Such basic things cost so, so much.

God bless whoever started the Bush thread. Now you guys can go complain bout him there