September 11th.
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| Nikki. Awake and Unafraid  Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 11846 | Do you think America is responsible in some way (like Maggie Gyllenhaal said)? Do you have any theories? Was it our President's fault? What can be done to prevent this from happening again? |
| Ceiling Gerard Awake and Unafraid  Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 14232 | You know whose fault it was? It was the terroist fault. They are the ones who went through with it, then are the ones who killed over 3000 innocent people. Sure, the goverment could have done so much more to protect us, but that's in the past. We aren't the first country to make a fatal mistake like that. And despite how much I despise Bush, it wasn't his fault. If he wasn't him, it would have been another president- democrat or republican. What we could do now, is increase secruity everywhere. I don't really know what else we could do. |
| Synyster Salute You in Your Grave Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 4215 | the terrorist attacks were horrible, and its the terrorists fault for attacking us. I don't think it was Bush's fault, BUT I do think he could have done something to prevent it, I mean, the administration was getting threats. AND I think that the raises in security haven't helped that much, I mean, right after the attacks happened my aunt accidently brought a cork screw on a plane, after all the heigtened security. A side note is that the government used the attacks on the pentagon and the twin towers/the pennsilvania crash to drive fear into the public-kinda like the cold war and communism. |
| Ceiling Gerard Awake and Unafraid Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 14232 | ^ That wasn't so much the goverment, as it was human nature. The goeverment did use it, however, as an excuse to start the war in Iraq. |
| Jake Joining The Black Parade Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 188 | Well, I don't like thinking about 9/11 all that much. It depresses me. I was 10 when it happened, and didn't understand what the big deal was. I didn't understand what World Trade Center buildings were. I mean, when you're 10, who cares, right? Sure, I felt/feel bad for all the people who died/didn't die, but still. Now that I'm 15, I completely understand that it's terroists, and they hate us, for no reason really. Just because. I don't think it could've been prevented. Maybe if we always had the security system that we have now it could've been, but we didn't. Poor Bush. First of all, the terroists were probably planning this for YEARS. In fact, they were. They tried bombing the world trade centers before, when CLINTON was president, but obviously, they didn't succeed. If Clinton would've made the big deal about it that President Bush is, I bet 9/11 would've never even happened. Because of terroists, I have a serious phobia of jet noise. I always freeze up when I hear a plane. And if the plane sounds really, really close to me, I run away. |
| Synyster Salute You in Your Grave Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 4215 | x_Shiva_x: Gah, what I MEANT to say was that it was an excuse to start wars, which is basiclly what you said... |
| mindfreak Killjoy Age: - Gender: - Posts: 43 | i for one think it was americas fault. and dont attack me for for believing that. if bush didnt go over there and demand oil then we wouldnt have started fighting in the first place which means we wouldnt have 9/11, we wouldnt have the war. they would have been over there and we would have been over here. bush just demanded their oil instead of going over there and having a conference and talking about a situation where they could possibly have a percentage of their oil, but no he went over there and threatened then if they didnt give him oil. and that would offend anyone so guess what they didnt give him the oil, so guess what he bombed THEM, and obviously they would attack back so that is what caused 9/11. now im not saying it was right for those people to die or anything because it wasnt, all im saying is thats its america/ presidents fault that any of it even started in the first place |
| mindfreak Killjoy Age: - Gender: - Posts: 43 | and even know years later bush wont accept the fact that while the troops are over in Iraq that Asama Bin Laden isnt going to come out of wherever hes hiding. i think Bush is the biggest hypocrit in the world because he was all sad when the thousands of innocent people died over here so thats supposedly why he started the war, but did it ever occur to him that his troops have killed and tortured thousands of innocent people over there? |
| Ceiling Gerard Awake and Unafraid Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 14232 | mindfreak: What are you talking about? This was planning WAY BEFORE Bush was in office or demanding oil. So I don't know where that came from. And I don't see how America did anything but foolishly giving the weapons to the enemies themselves. Thats right, we helped Afganastan fight off the Russians way back in the cold war. Please, get your facts straight. |
| cocaine. Shotgun Sinner  Age: - Gender: - Posts: 8558 | I was almost ten when it happened. I remember seeing the footage and thinking it was a movie. I really did. My mum had to explain it to me, that it wasn't a movie and that it really happened and that something like this may very well happen again. It made me realise that we're not that safe anymore. And the only other thing I remember about it is that I heard the emergency calls and I cried. I don't think it was America's fault. or Bush's fault. I don't like George Bush, but it wasn't his fault, like Jenni said. The only people responsible were the terrorits themselves. And I'm glad they died the way they did. I know that's a horrible thing to say, but I don't care. |
| Darkened Angel Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 2364 | Amor Vincit Nikki.: In a way America is responsible, we could have saw this coming when Clinton was president and be better prepared for it when it happened. So many people died and it really upsets me, my mom was in the Pentagon when the plane crashed and you know what? She was pregnant with my baby sister, do you know what the fumes from the plane could have done to her? No my mom didn't die, but many others did and for no reason at all. I don't like Bush that much and if I was old enough I wouldn't have voted for him, but I still don't think it was his fault, they were planning this way before he became president. The war would have happened with any other president, I don't think our troops would still be in Iraq if we had another president, but there was no way to get around the war. We need to stop blaming each other for what happened in the past and freaking compromise. |
| cocaine. Shotgun Sinner Age: - Gender: - Posts: 8558 | I don't think America was repsonsible, I just can't figure out if they were in any way at all. Do you agree with all the suspicions about the connection to the plane numbers, date and emercengry number? I personally don't but it's probably a little more than a coincidence. Either that, or someone has waaaaaaaaay too much time on their hands. doggylove101; Nikki said it's not a confession thread, and that she was sorry if you lost someone or someone was in the area of the attacks at the time. What do you think of the people who stopped the fourth plane from reaching the Pentagon? Do you believe it was a heroic thing to do? To attack the terrorists and take the plane down so many others didn't die? I didn't know that there was another plane that crashed until recently and that film came out about it. I think it was a brave, heroic thing to do, to stop the plane, even though they knew they were probably going to die. |
| Mud Really Not Okay Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 749 | The number 911 was chosen by the terrorists. Not because it was the emergency number of the United States, although this may have had something to do with it. The numbers chosen had significance to Islam, although not necessarily immediately apparent. Also, it was a memorable date. The terrorists wanted as many people as possible to know about it, to spread their cause and to scare people. The terrorists were trained in and by the US and I think that was at best foolish. However, the real problem I see is that fighters weren't scrambled. A plan was in place, but it wasn't implemented. Why? I honestly don't know. I do think America needs to change its attitude though. America often comes off as very arrogant and selfish to the rest of the world. This doesn't in any way justify what the terrorists did. However, it would help reduce resentment and would give America the perceived moral highground. |
| Ceiling Gerard Awake and Unafraid Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 14232 | The terroist didn't attack us because some people are under the impression we are arrogant- they attacked us because they don't agree with our Western way of life- the womens rights, the freedoms in the first admenment. They see us as a sin in the eyes of Allah. So they contorted their bible, much like people do, and justified killing innocent people. |
| Mud Really Not Okay Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 749 | They do see the Western way of life as sinful and that was their reason for attacking. However, they would get much less sympathy and find it much more difficult to recruit people if America was seen as a helpful, giving, accepting country. And if America truly gave its people freedom. |
| Ceiling Gerard Awake and Unafraid Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 14232 | Doesn't America give their people freedom? We have the right to protest our goverment, we have the right to practice whatever religion they want, even illegal immigrants had the right to petition in the streets. And they wouldnt have any problems recruiting people; they are blindly following a religion and a person who promises them women and riches when they die. It is much like Hitler and Nazi Germany. |
| secret_goldfish Shotgun Sinner  Age: 60 Gender: Female Posts: 7804 | i personally think that it involved George Bush and his want for oil. i guess its sort of silly for thinking this, that he got the oil and they got to break down a historic building, but i think its true. |
| Ceiling Gerard Awake and Unafraid Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 14232 | It had nothing to do with Bush. September 11th was going to happen whether or not Bush was elected. It was in the works for years before Bush was settled into office. It was going to happened. |
| Mud Really Not Okay Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 749 | Jenni Like Whoa: No. America certainly does not give people freedom. Bush has persecuted people for the things they have said. Less so recently because he has been called out and also opposition to him is increasing to a point where its harder for him to control. But certainly a few years ago, there were many people jailed or otherwise persecuted for voicing their opinions. Terrorists would have greater problems in recruiting people if America didn't come across in the way that it does. There would still be some. But there would be fewer. Imagine if America had spend the money it spent on bombing Iraq on selfless humanitarian efforts. I remember at the very beginning of the war in Iraq, there was disastrous flooding in parts of Africa. The US would have gained very little from helping those people, other than respect. But it chose not to. It would be so much harder to justify attacking a country that was truly helping so many people. |
| Ceiling Gerard Awake and Unafraid Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 14232 | 1. I am an American, and I have yet to hear of Bush persecuting people because of that. I am not saying he didn't, but I strongly doubt it. Also, this was planning WAY before Bush was president, so this wasn't about him. And we DEFINATLY give more freedoms than the people in the middle east, who treat their women like property. 2. And you keep saying the US, too bad the US is only following what their president is saying. We don't even know why was are in Iraq except that it has oil, and that's all Bush wants. Do you even think we WANT this war? No, we don't. Even the republicans who have followed Bush want to pull out. And you know, us going into Africa wouldn't do anything- we would just be that "nation who keeps sticking their faces in other peoples business." And you are only bringing up issues that happened AFTER the fact. 9/11 was not about Bush, not about Americas arrogance. It was about our way of life conflicting with theres. Period. |
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