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Thug Life.
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May 17th, 2008 at 10:44am
i know theres a similar thread on the mcr bands forum but i thnk not everyone goes there so i really wanted this to go on the discussion board for discussion.

anyways
after what alot of people have considered to be bad press for the daily mail some people ahve banded together to march
heres an exerpt from their site

"This is where you guys come in. We are organizing a peaceful protest outside the Daily Mail's London HQ. We want to show them that we aren't a cult but an army. Obviously, we need people for a protest so, if you can get there, please come and join us. Show the world and our boys what we're made of and that we won't take any garbage.

The peaceful protest starts at Hyde Park at 9:30am. We'll meet there and then at 10am, make our way to the Daily Mail's HQ nearby in Derry Street. The protest will take place on Saturday, May 31st 2008."

now personally i think the idea is a waste of time.
for a lot of reasons.

mainly because i dont think its that much of a problem that the daily mail said those things. i mean fair enough it was just misinformed.
but in the scale of things how important is it with all the other things going on in the world.
just because some journalist at the daily mail got some things wrong it warrants a reason to march ? i think that the whole idea is absurd march for peace in Africa march to feed the poor but march because mcr got blamed for someones death ? cmon the daily mail probably wont even care.

your views please ?
Mindfuck
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May 17th, 2008 at 10:51am
I completely agree with you that it is a waste of time. Even though I am an MCR fan, I think these fans who are thinking about protesting should stop and think about what they are doing. What makes them think the Daily Mail is just going to turn around and alter their view of My Chemical Romance? I doubt this protest will even make a mark on them. I'm not saying, "don't protest anything because it might not work", I'm just saying for this 'issue' I don't think a protest is necessary.

At the end of the day, MCR are always going to get bad press, whether it's from the Daily Mail or not. You can't protect your favourite band all the time.
brandleys;
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May 17th, 2008 at 11:35am
i agree with you. people are always going to get misinformed on not just MCR, but almost every single band or artist out there. it would be a waste of time to protest for what a jounalist said. it wouldn't change anything because there's other places that say the same thing. most do say the same thing over and over and over again... so if they want to protest, they would be protesting everyone who said anything bad about MCR.

i mean, it is obnoxious when people say those things, because half of them aren't even true, but it's not worth to protest about it.

that would be a waste of time. i totally agree with you.
Toki
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May 17th, 2008 at 11:41am
You guys are missing the point - it's not just about MCR, it's about scape-goating music in general.
Music should never be blamed because bands are not responsible for the actions of an individual.

We know for sure that The Daily Mail aren't going to welcome us with open arms after this, and we sure as hell don't want them to. The Daily Mail are a much disliked newpaper in the UK, some people even call it the "Daily Fascist".
This is a stand against terrible journalism. And no, it was not just one time that The Daily Mail have been misinformed - since 2006 they've been on an MCR witch hunt.

Even after the huge outrage displayed from the rock community as a whole from this (not just MCR fans) The Daily Mail continued to print a third article on the 15th May. They completely ignored all the criticism from a large number of people, Kerrang magazine included, and continued to display ignorance with such lines as "the black parade is a place that emos believe they go whem they die".
Such statements insult our intelligence as fans and I won't stand for that.

Who the hell cares if it's not going to change anything? We have been insulted, demeaned and treated completely unfairly.
With this protest we are going to make a point.
Thug Life.
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May 17th, 2008 at 11:47am

But people are always going to give bands bad raps ? whats the point

and if you say you dont care if your not going to change anything
why bother at all ?
fair enough if the publication is mcr biased im sure kerrang would be pro mcr considering their a alternative music outlet. i mean its just biased writing.

i think alot of people are going just because they need a reason to get political and march for something. i mean if your gonna go march for something really worth while that affects everyone. im sure the majority of the london populace couldne care less about my chemical romance at all.




My Demise
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May 17th, 2008 at 11:48am
Even if the march doesn't do too well, we still tried to do something against ignorance and intolerence. And that's what matters.
Mindfuck
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May 17th, 2008 at 11:59am
heartagram.:

Even after the huge outrage displayed from the rock community as a whole from this (not just MCR fans) The Daily Mail continued to print a third article on the 15th May. They completely ignored all the criticism from a large number of people, Kerrang magazine included, and continued to display ignorance with such lines as "the black parade is a place that emos believe they go whem they die".
Such statements insult our intelligence as fans and I won't stand for that.



And you know why they continue [and will continue] to write articles like that? Because it makes for good press. Having a headline that links in a popular band with the death of an emo teenager is going to sell, and that is all that matters to them. They will (and not just the Daily Mail) write articles denouncing bands.

It's just bias, and it's something you have to get used to. Bias is everywhere. Even in shitty music magazines like Kerrang!.
Toki
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May 17th, 2008 at 12:04pm
Look, I know that there are so many injustices in the world.
I attended a gay rights march, and a free Burma march, both earlier this year.
The thing is, this event has directly affected us personally as fans.

My old history teacher always used to tell us this quote and I think this sums it all up:

"For evil to triumph it requires the good men to do nothing"
Thug Life.
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May 17th, 2008 at 12:42pm

thumbs up for going to gay rights marches and free burma marches now theres some injustices

but seriously wheres the injustice in the daily maily slamming mcr on a constant basis ?

do you think the hordes of paris hilton wanabees go on march every time tmz.com make her look horrendous ? no because its just media doing what it does
mudsling.


Rexperience
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May 17th, 2008 at 02:36pm
My Demise:
Even if the march doesn't do too well, we still tried to do something against ignorance and intolerence. And that's what matters.
Right Fuckin On Dude!
Wish I could join in but I got the problem of the Atlanic Ocean between me.

Yes I hear you Migatron / Techno Cocaine and understand where your coming from. My advise to the protesters is that the Media is its own monster and does not function like society or politics. Do not be surprised if the next day the headline reads "Massive Gathering of Brainwashed Suicial Youths Wage War On Press" But on the other hand, in such a situation you never know what can happen untill it does. Good Luck ~ Rex
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May 17th, 2008 at 10:38pm
this march is ridiculous.
The articles should be ignored, if it makes people angry, then giving them a response will only fuel them.
The mature thing to do would be to stop making such a huge deal out of it. In all honesty, I think participating in the march will make you look stupid.
MCR can fend for themselves. They are five grown men, with jobs and a roof over their heads. A bout of bad publicity is not going to ruin them, it happens to most celebrities.

All this attention is being directed in the last place it needs to be. I mean, yes, you might think that by marching for the band it is showing your dedication and support. But what about what the band thinks? Do they really need a group of (mainly) teenage fans to defend them? Or what it will do to their reputation after the march, or when it is publicised?

heads up to Rex: keep the swearing to a minimum. Swearing is not allowed on the discussion board, mainly because it's unnecessary and makes you look unintelligent.

Mindfuck
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May 17th, 2008 at 11:03pm
^I completely agree with what you said.

The whole thing is getting out of control, on the fan's part.

You guys have to realise that The Daily Mail is a pompous old rag that's aimed at the over 40's demographic, so of course it's going to be the natural nemesis of most teenagers.

Beat-ups such as the MCR one recently is a very common thing in the media.

As an analogy, let's just say the self-righteous MCR fans are the dogs, and the Daily Mail journos are the cats. You both hate each other; it's a natural given. But it's just something you have to get over, and sure, the Daily Mail might tease and taunt you once in a while with a rubbish article of My Chemical Romance, but have a few barks and then leave it at that. Go back to your daily business, just as they will.



[/shitty analogy]
Thug Life.
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May 18th, 2008 at 01:15am

i agree it is a mountain out of a molehill.

whats there to achieve ? i think thats the question.
what good will come out of this really, the daily mail is still gonna beat up on mcr and other bands .

i dont see people marching when rap and hip hop gets blamed for gang violence. thats because people just shrug it off.
earth2themorgue
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May 18th, 2008 at 03:51am
the protest is a way of making them listen and letting them know that enough is enough. the daily mail have targeted MCR for quite a while now and when they start refering to MCR as a 'suicide cult' thats going way too far and fans are starting to get sick of it.
we're doing what MCR taught us to do: "be yourselves, dont take anyones shit and never let them take you alive."
it may not seem like a big deal to you, which is fine because your entitled to your own opinion but some of us feel strongly about it and feel the need to actually do something about it.
the way i see it, its like standing up to a bully. MCR and their fans have been bullied enough and the daily mail need to know we're not taking their shit anymore. its enough. and this is the most effective way to let them know that.
asha shake.
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May 18th, 2008 at 03:54am


I see that there are people passionate about this,
but I still think it's a complete overreaction.

You have to see, the Daily Mail wouldn't put together completely unfounded articles,
they would have done their research and conducted interviews, and put together the articles based on them.
Just because you guys disagree with them, doesn't mean they are unfounded.
As for the "hasty" (in regards to discussion in another thread) research? Of course it has to be 'hasty' in that it's done quickly, otherwise the stories lose any news value they might have held. But they still conduct research, let me tell you that of all the journalists I know, I can't think of any that would submit an unresearched article. There's just way too many legal ramifications for incorrect articles. And once a journalist has submitted it, there are so many other people that look it over, and I imagine with the Daily Mail being a major paper, the articles would even be looked over by their lawyers, so the chances of incorrect/defamatory articles being published is next to none.

As for the letters/emails not being published or acknowledged, that's probably something to do with My Chem not being important in the big scheme of things.
Honestly, just flick through a newspaper, or even visit news.com.au or something.
What's on there? The earthquake in China, drugs, chemicals used in the community that have links to cancer, the cyclone in Burma, the federal budget.
These are all things that change lives.
Can the same be said about My Chem's portrayal in the media? No.
People will be feeling the effects of the aforementioned stories for years to come, will anybody really care about My Chem's portrayal (or My Chem at all) in 5-10 years? No.
Why would the press waste space (and thus money) on things like that, when in the big scheme of things, it just doesn't matter?

Even if the Daily Mail did stop ~badmouthing My Chem,
what exactly would that achieve in the world?
It's not going to eliminate poverty, it's not going to stop violence or discrimination,
it's not going to do anything worthwhile.
I'm sorry to say this, but the My Chem fandom needs a reality check on what really matters.

And honestly, organising a protest in reaction to being labelled a suicide cult or whatever it was sounds extremely stupid to me.
If anything, it would probably reinforce that view.
earth2themorgue
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May 18th, 2008 at 04:03am
the Daily Mail actually have a reputation for being massive dickfarts. we're not the only ones who have tried to organise a march against them. check out this facebook group:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=13523730262
spencer smith.
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May 18th, 2008 at 04:07am

I think if anyone should be offended by the articles in the Daily Mail, it should be the band itself.
If anyone misheard my message and blamed me for people's suicides, I would be pretty upset.
I believe that it's is not up to the fans to take matters like this into their own hands.
If the band has something to say about this issue, they will.

As for the suicide cult accusation, to be completely honest, I can kind of see where they are coming from.
Not to say that there is a suicide cult, because as far as I know, no such thing exists, but some My Chemical Romance fans have committed suicide,
and some people will latch onto that as a story because My Chem is so popular.

In my opinion, the march is completely ridiculous and pointless.
All it's going to do is show the Daily Mail how loyal My Chem fans are, and maybe make them think that we're too loyal.
I think those people protesting should go out and protest for something that will actually make a difference, or wont make people look down on you.

I agree 100% with Asha, the march will just reinforce the idea of a cult.
IceHog69
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May 18th, 2008 at 04:15am
if everyone in the world had the 'Oh, it wont make a difference' attitude, then black people would still be slaves, women wouldn't be able to vote, and the Berlin Wall would still be standing. So what if it doesn't make a difference, you'll never know unless you try. It isn't about My Chemical Romance being blamed for every teen suicide in the world, it's about trying to raise awareness that 'emo' isn't a cult. It's about trying to tell people that we are fed up of being treated like sh*t because we dress differently. it's about telling people that the music doesn't make us want to die, it makes us realize that there are other people out there that feel the same way we do.

The Daily Mail has always been a very opinionated newspaper, and no march is going to change that, but it might at least make people realize that we aren't stupid little self-harming ejits that should crawl back into the hole MCR dug for us, like most paper's seem to make out. It might make people realize that we are normal people, with emotions, and a taste for alternative rock.

Unfortunately, it might reinforce the idea that emo's over react about everything.
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May 18th, 2008 at 05:40am
Protests can make a difference, but only if you're prepared for a long hard journey, and you are protesting against something which has a massive following and you have the backing of influencial people, like Matrin Luther King and the Civil Rights movement. I can't see people taking a "don't blame the band, it's not their fault that some people are idiots and give us all a bad name" protest being taken as seriously as that was. Sorry.
This will all blow over in a few weeks if you let the Mail and other tabloids have their fun, and it won't come up again until the next time we do something which can be blamed on music. You're keeping this all in everyone's minds by having this protest and the sooner people forget about it, the sooner we can go back to liking a band which doesn't have a reputation attached to it.
Besides, if you're gonna protest because people are using music as a scapegoat, you'll have to protest about any form of media (ie: newspapers, books, TV, films, computer games) because they can all have an influence on people.
*shrug*
It's unrealistic to ask people to protest over this sort of thing, and I can't see it making any difference whatsoever. People don't like to think that they are to blame for things, so it will ALWAYS be the media (or religion or something daft like that) which takes the blame for the bad stuff that goes on in society.
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May 18th, 2008 at 05:49am
ChipmunkOnKetamine:
if everyone in the world had the 'Oh, it wont make a difference' attitude, then black people would still be slaves, women wouldn't be able to vote, and the Berlin Wall would still be standing. So what if it doesn't make a difference, you'll never know unless you try. It isn't about My Chemical Romance being blamed for every teen suicide in the world, it's about trying to raise awareness that 'emo' isn't a cult. It's about trying to tell people that we are fed up of being treated like sh*t because we dress differently. it's about telling people that the music doesn't make us want to die, it makes us realize that there are other people out there that feel the same way we do.

The Daily Mail has always been a very opinionated newspaper, and no march is going to change that, but it might at least make people realize that we aren't stupid little self-harming ejits that should crawl back into the hole MCR dug for us, like most paper's seem to make out. It might make people realize that we are normal people, with emotions, and a taste for alternative rock.

Unfortunately, it might reinforce the idea that emo's over react about everything.


First of all, issues such as slavery and women's rights are much more important that issues such as MCR being portrayed negatively by a pompous newspaper. They were causes worth campaigning, fighting and protesting for. The point most people against the protest are trying to make is, that this issue is not earth-shatteringly important.

Besides, in this is old news in the media world. News papers churn out articles everyday obviously, and after a few days, stories like this one become old and stale. My guess is the blaming of MCR for the girl's death was just a spin the journo took to make it newsworthy.

Secondly, like others have mentioned, campaigning against this reinforces the fact that emos are seen to belong a cult.

Thirdly (and this really has nothing to do with the actual discussion but I'm going to say it anyway just because I can), emos don't dress "differently"; they dress quite normally compared to some other subcultures.