MCR march

^ That could also be said for any unsuccessful protest. Like many in the early days the of the American Civil Rights movement, about Proposition 8 in California etc.

I don't see what music being a luxury has to do with MCR being badmouthed...

my point is, MCR is something that many people feel very strongly for- what they stand for, what subculture they may represent, what they support. Even if it seems pointless and unimportant to you, like you said, others say that MCR has changed their lives, and I think that those people would want to defend them because of that, and that's what's important to them.

Utada Hikaru:

I get you, but ask yourself, who on earth did this help?

It helped the fans, did you think of that? Even if it didn't do anything, a lot of people made very good friends there and they had a good time. I think that's better than just sitting around doing nothing but be upset - at least people had a good time.

I see what you mean by there being other ways and places, but like she said, they had a good time, and it's another way for the fans to stand up for what they believe, and know that they tried

I posted this last year just after the march happened, and I'm posting it again for Utada Hikaru:

tabitha:

And I think that it has been established that the point is, if you think people should march for a "more important" reason (AIDS, violence, racism, poverty, keeping the McGriddle ) then by all means get off your tushie and put together a march for it. Don't sit around telling others what to march for. If those causes are as important to you as this cause was to these girls, talk to them and get some how-to's because they just pulled off one hell of a great protest.

Look at how divided we are against our own. How quick we are to judge others and tell them that they aren't good enough -- that their ideas are misguided and not important enough, that they are young and immature for reacting in a perfectly legal way against something they feel strongly about. And just remember, when you put together your own march against whatever cause, a thousand people are going to tell you that you should have marched for something that *they* think is more important than your cause. Would you want all those people telling you that you are wrong and that your cause is not important? Or would you want them to encourage you and hope for the best for you and support you because at least you did *something*?

They just made a difference. Their voices were just heard by millions.

It makes me feel small, knowing I've never done anything that impactful.

What are you going to do now? Continue to berate them? Or get off your butt and do something? Or maybe, just maybe, you can at least just see the good that they did, and be happy for them, instead of trying to cut them down for what they *didn't* do. Because they just did more than any of us ever did -- and for that, I am insanely, amazingly proud of them.

If you think the protest was such a waste of time, then get off your ass and go do one for a better cause. Until then, don't say a bunch of negative things about something that *did* mean something, it meant enough to one person to spur them into action, and it meant enough to the protesters to take the time to participate.

Tabs, stop being so awesome, it makes the rest of us look bad.

The protest didn't change the world. It didn't make the Daily Mail apologise, it didn't solve world hunger, or find a cure for cancer and AIDS.

You know what it did do?

Made people happy. People were crying they were so happy. One girl came over from Sweden. One girl had her mother there, and the mother thanked the organisers for making her daughter so happy.

We got some positive attention (NME said any music fans should admire the protestors) and a lot of negative attention (Anons putting up signs saying 'emos did 9/11' and people saying the organisers were idiotic fangirls) but we did it for us.

We met people from the S.O.P.H.I.E chairty, who thanked us.

It wasn't the most important thing to protest about, but I don't see you doing anything to change people's lives.

I for one am glad I went. I made friends I love very much that day. I had fun (kickball, dance offs, singing, talking bands and music with people, hearing the Swedish theme tune for Pokemon were just a few highlights)

It might not have changed the world, but personally it made me happy, and I hope it made people I love happy too.

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It wasn't the most important thing to protest about, but I don't see you doing anything to change people's lives.

Oh im sorry, I didn't realise you knew me.

Id ask you not to make assumptions about me thankyou
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If you think the protest was such a waste of time, then get off your ass and go do one for a better cause. Until then, don't say a bunch of negative things about something that *did* mean something

No I havn't been to a protest, but i try my best to make even the littlest effort.

I donate whenever I can, and volunteer in my local oxfam shop 3 days a week. However thats not the point. If it made any difference to you guys, then okay. Personally I don't think the daily mail did anything wrong, but I tell you guys that your feelings are wrong. So I concede to you. [/font][/size]

Listen, I'm sure you are a contributing citizen and that your volunteer work is appreciated. I volunteer for Make-A-Wish and Give Kids The World, two organizations who try to make life a little bit better for children who are fighting terminal or life-threatening illnesses. People who work with the homeless and the hungry tell me, why do you waste your time working with children who are going to die? It's pointless and the end result is a dead child. That may be, I say, but it's not always about the child dying, it's about the triumph of their spirit, giving them a week away from doctors and hospitals and even more than that, giving their parents one magical week where they are a *family*, where their child isn't gawked at or poked or prodded or injected with poisons to kill a cancer.

So what's more important? To me, it's the kids. To others, it's the homeless, or people with AIDS, or literacy, or preserving a bit of parchment believed to have divine writing on it. To you, it's the people in an oxfam shop. You choose that as your passion, your charity, your way to make the world better. Anni and the protestors chose to take a stand against a band being slandered as a suicide cult and its fans being labels as depressed, "emo", suicidal freaks. They chose to sing "Famous Last Words" as a way to inspire and give hope.

Anyone who tries to make the world a better place does what he or she can, and puts their passion into whatever touches them. The fact that this protest was created and put on by teens gives me hope, as an adult, that the next generation *does* care and *can* speak out. I'll even go so far as to agree that it wasn't the most important cause in the world, but that doesn't matter; what matters is that it was important *to them* and they made it happen, and they don't deserve to have people shit on it just because it didn't have a global impact or didn't stop a war.

tabitha:

Anni and the protestors chose to take a stand against a band being slandered as a suicide cult and its fans being labels as depressed, "emo", suicidal freaks. They chose to sing "Famous Last Words" as a way to inspire and give hope.

Anyone who tries to make the world a better place does what he or she can, and puts their passion into whatever touches them. The fact that this protest was created and put on by teens gives me hope.

^Thankyou for saying that. I'm personally thankfull to the organisers because that day was amazing. I was so happy just being there among people who felt the same.

For me, it was personal. They have helped me so much and for TDM to slander them, calling them a suicide cult, saying the fans believe in all this rubbish and giving the impression that we follow them mindlessly, I found that insulting. You can't generalise a group of people just because of poorly looking on the surface.

I've had a lot of crap happen to me..stuff I never thought could happen. I needed a light, I needed something, and it was them. I found that truely offensive what they said so I decided I didn't want to just let that go. Sure, it didn't make them apologize and they most likely didn't really care, but I was happy that I was protesting for my reasons. I wanted people to know that they are a good, kind, honest band who aim to help. I spoke to a interviewer and told them my story. I just wanted to tell someone who would take the slightest bit of notice to realise this band's help can get people though some of the toughest in life.

Huck.:

Tabs, stop being so awesome, it makes the rest of us look bad.
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I wish I could have done what the protesters did, but I was several thousand miles away.

All I'm gonna say is this:

Yeah, it wasn't the greatest cause in the world, even I can say that and I was one of the people behind it. But those who are against it: I don't see you getting off your asses from behind that computer screen and doing something for something you dub a worthy cause. Maybe we don't think that what YOU find a worthy cause is worthy at all. Maybe we don't care about YOUR cause.
Have you ever considered that this DID help at least one person? I don't care if it's just one person, at least it helped someone. Therefore, nobody can say it's stupid or useless.
I know that I, for one, met at least two people that I've been through a lot with, and someone who'll help me in the future. Because I was there, I met so many people that changed the course of my life, showing me that I can do what I want and not what other people want.
So I don't see how it was useless.

eh? Can you explain that. What exactly did MCR do?

i dont know...i think it was a good thing for mcr.
people just dont bother to take the time to march for other things that are really important, but if you dont then no one will hear what you have to say...
some fans jusy care a lot about the band && what people say about them. they dont just sitt around not doing anything about it, && i think its a good example for others to see... maybe next time people will march for something much more important...

^^ I do feel it's acceptable, being the one who said it, because people who are involved in causes should never look down on others. So I give money and time to children's charities. I won't ever say that someone's work on the cause of their choice isn't enough.

I feel that people who work together should support each other. I've even stated that I agree that the MCR march wasn't a "worthy" cause in my opinion; but it was to them. And as a person who works with my own causes, I can respect and appreciate what they did for a cause important to them.

Cutting people down for standing up for what they believe in is an asshole move. End of.