Abortions.
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| gerards_demolition_lover Fabulous Killjoy  Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 129 | I know that it is the mother's body and whatnot....but....everyone deserves to live.... |
| matfew churlz sanduz Shotgun Sinner  Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 9716 | Sure, everyone does deserve to live, But think of it from the mother's point of veiw. What if she were raped? What if the child she was carrying would be in ten times more pain being alive then dying? Is there maybe a greater good? A female doctor was convicted, I believe, for performing an illegal abortion because the baby was 23 weeks old. Would you say this doctor was in the wrong? Or did she do the right thing by the patient? |
| cocaine. Shotgun Sinner  Age: - Gender: - Posts: 8558 | I am for abortions, but only if the mother has been raped and can't keep the baby becuase it will be too paniful, or if the baby has a horrible disability that will leave them in pain for the rest of their life, not just because they don't want the child. In regards to your question Ella, I would have to know the circumstances of the mother's reason for it. Also, it would have been a good idea for the doctor to refuse all toghether. If it's illegal, then you're looking at having your lisence revoked. But that's another story. |
| idk. my bff jill? Demolition Lover  Age: 29 Gender: Female Posts: 18372 | gerards_demolition_lover: Exactly. |
| bloodredruby69 Banned  Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 8293 | Abortion is only murder if you believe life starts at conception or shortly thereafter. It is only murder from the points of view of people who believe this. I believe that while the "child" is still a clump of cells, or anytime before it is fully developed into the semblance of a child, that it can be aborted without ethical consequences. |
| rach3l is a sound. Salute You in Your Grave Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 3840 | Personally, I am pro-choice. The woman should be aloud to do what she likes to her body. If the baby is a rape baby and the woman would rather not have that baby, then so be it. If the baby is born with a disease that could eventually send the woman and any one helping her could bo bankrupt or severe debt, then so be it. |
| maad larzaza. Salute You in Your Grave  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 2670 | In no way am I supportive of abortion, for any reason. In my eyes, it is murder. Born or unborn, that child has no right to be killed. If the mother became pregnant because of incest, if she was raped, if the child will have disablities, or if they just don't want or can't support the child, there's an easy and logical answer: adoption. there are millions of couples out there who can't have children who would take care of that baby in a heartbeat, so I'm totally confused at why a girl can't go nine months carrying a child that they know can be raised by loving people. |
| bloodredruby69 Banned Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 8293 | ^Considering the harsh realities of what you stated, combined with the possibilities of serious injury or death that some women face during pregnancy, not to mention the feelings of the mother - a lot of people would rather chose abortion over those consequences. Then, they will only have to bear with a guilty conscience and the what ifs. However, if the mother carries the baby to term and then gives it up for adoption, she will forever carry that hard kernal of loss in her heart. She could not raise her child, she gave it to someone who could; she cannot mourn the loss nor can she rejoice in the fact that her child is well, when she has no idea where it is or how it's doing. Have you ever heard the song, "He would be 16" ? I suggest you look it up. And I cannot say how sick I am of hearing "Oh, they can just give it up." Excuse me? Have you ever had to give up a child, one you've carried in your body for nine monthes? Someone who is part of you? I haven't, but I can only imagine how hard it must be. To speak of giving away a child as though it were a possetion is not only short-sited, it's cold blooded. |
| Mud Really Not Okay Age: - Gender: Female Posts: 749 | Shelliepop.: In which case, why are there so many children left in homes for year after year? They don't know that their child will be raised by loving people. A) You can never tell for sure whether someone is going to be loving, B) Lots of children don't get adopted; don't go to families and live happily ever after. |
| Roonil Wazlib Motor Baby  Age: 33 Gender: Female Posts: 773 | Shaking Ella's Hold: ok then, so what if it were you're mom was the one who was raped, and you were the rape child that was killed. You wouldn't even be alive to tell that story with the doctor (who did wrong, even if it was what the patient wanted.) bloodredruby69: And it's not cold blooded to kill the poor child? I mean, whoever gets an abortion takes away the chance for another person to discover the cure for cancer, or the next musical genus. Or maybe a great friend to a lonely kid. |
| Aishwarya in town Awake and Unafraid Age: 30 Gender: Female Posts: 14049 | Airgirl:You could also say that abortion might be "killing" the next Hitler. When you kill a poor child, it does not feel pain. It won't suffer. If you give it up for adoption, it might spend it's entire life in an orphanage with a poor education until the orphanage turns it out and it has to face the world. It could also end up with a loving family. You never know. But it might suffer. |
| bloodredruby69 Banned Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 8293 | An abortion is the removal of a clump of developing cells. So no, I'd say it's not cold-blooded. Especially when those same cells could help find a cure for diseases or help people with spinal chord injuries. I am seriously getting sick of people just toting "Abortion is murder! Those pooooor children!!!!!!!" It's not like the child is a fully developed, viable human being. By the time it is an actual infant in appearence and function, it is illegal to abort it, so that people are NOT killing innocent children. Up until that point however, the cells that create the fetus are part of the woman's body, and she and only she has control over her body. Aborting it is no different than removing any other clump of cells from the body. Period. The ONLY reason people can argue murder is because of the difference in opinion of when life starts. Some believe it starts at conception, some when the fetus RESEMBLES (note, resembles, not actually is) a human child, some when the kid is born. So therefore, you cannot push the idea that abortion is murder, becasue it IS NOT fact. It is only based on opinion. Science begs to differ. So please, stop with the mediocre posts that "OMG! Abortion is murder!", as that statement without back up or explanation is REDUNDANT. Ok, I think I'm done now. |
| cocaine. Shotgun Sinner Age: - Gender: - Posts: 8558 | Abortion is the removal of a developing cells, like Ruby said. It means that the baby does not have a brain, does not have neerves, and basically isn't even alive yet. It wouldn't feel anything. The human aspects (and I am talking feeling, hearing, taste) of a baby do not start to develop until about three months in the womb. Therefore, that is when an abortion stops. It is illegal to perform an abortion past this time in the pregnancy. So please tell me how getting rid of a bunch of cells is murder? There may be pshycological side effects for the mother, but that's it. |
| My Chemical Asshole Bleeding on the Floor Age: 32 Gender: Female Posts: 1378 | I really disagree with abortion. end of |
| Megan Vegantoast Bleeding on the Floor  Age: 31 Gender: Female Posts: 1173 | Can a clump of cells think? No... So as long is its before it developes senses and a brain I"m fine with it... If its just before its born I'm REALLY against it. |
| bloodredruby69 Banned Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 8293 | ^Like I said before, there is a point in the development of the child that it is illegal to abort after. Anytime before that, it IS just a clump of cells. Late abortions are illegal because the child is developed to the point of almost being able to survive on it's own. |
| MistressRhi Motor Baby  Age: 40 Gender: Female Posts: 991 | at 20 or 28 weeks i think it's considered a feotus not just matter, i think that's where they draw the line |
| cocaine. Shotgun Sinner Age: - Gender: - Posts: 8558 | I'm pretty sure it's about three months, four months. Something like that. |
| asha shake. Devil's Got Your Number  Age: 35 Gender: Female Posts: 36414 | I always thought it was 3 months |
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